• nayminlwin@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    IOTs are pushing us towards subscription hell-scape. We must demand dumb, non-connected machines and devices.

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    1 year ago

    To what extent could companies wreck my freedom in cars even more? I have heard of heated seats being pay walled, despite the technology to heat the seat being installed in the factory… Computer controlled locking systems where if my key fob breaks I can’t get into my car, or worse, the electronic control system fails and I’m up shit creek without a paddle.

    As to education, how can I even learn to repair something like that? My ignorance makes me think soldering may be useful, but how can an individual have greater control on the freedom to repair and own their automobile. The generality of my question lays in my ignorance to the inner workings of most cars.

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      You have to buy special $3000 computer handhelds that plug into the car and let you interface with it completely. Often you can only buy those with a business account direct from the manufacturer.

      You cand do a little bit with OBD II using a $10 Bluetooth dongle and free app. But that’s basically limited to reading and clearing codes.

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        1 year ago

        I got an OBD-II device for reading and clearing codes and at least I can snatch them from my vehicle. I haven’t heard of the dongle before, does it connect to the infotainment system and then allow you access to the underlying file system? I don’t want to brick anything doing that lol

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      We said that when the Oblivion horse armor released. And look where we are now.

      At some point basically everyone will do it and marketing will fo the rest.

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      You might not have a choice if they all decide to do it. Companies are actually kinda good at that kind of collective actions sometimes.

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        1 year ago

        When this becomes the norm. I look to the jailbreak community for hope.

        I WILL download a car!

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      Neither would I, but the majority of these cars are going into corporate fleets. I’ll have one at the end of the year. I assume corporate isn’t going to pay for the optionals so I’ll be stuck with a crippled car through no choice of my own.

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          IT in Flanders, Belgium. Company cars are almost a given for white collar jobs and even many blue collar ones here since regular income from work is taxed to high heavens. Companies look for other ways to compensate employees without actually having to raise their base salary. Just recently this shifted to electric-only, so most company fleets now are stopping leases on diesel & gas cars and replacing them with EV’s.

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      1 year ago

      We have this issue in my industry. You have to have the (as we say) the golden code to unlock features of a device you already own. The DLC of bullshit.

      • Reddit_Is_Trash@reddthat.com
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        1 year ago

        A lot of cars already have access ports made by third parties to flash ECU tunes on.

        If cars like this become the norm, I’m sure we’ll see a lot more of these to bypass paywalls on your own cars