ArgumentativeMonotheist

I bet they think they’re just “following orders” like their forefathers…

McD is pretty much the height of American cuisine, lol.

After they created confessions (meaning somehow the priest can ‘cleanse’ you of your sins, God won’t take you touching your niece into consideration for your judgment because you told some old dude about it and you recited 5 prayers to virgin Mary, lol) and purgatory (it used to be a binary destination, either Heaven and Hell, but the Church needed money lenders and usury to get coin for wars and whatnot and made it up to legitimise what had been seen as inmoral for ages) Christian dogma was fully cooked.

The problem starts with Paul (well, actually, with Rome and the creation of a new religion, and then the Council of Nicea. People in the West would’ve been some kind of Jewish if not, like Jesus was) and his idea of “faith without works” and “belief that God exists and Jesus submitted to Him is enough to be saved!”, which was vehemently opposed by Jesus’ actual followers that understood that faith without works is dead at best, hypocritical if not, and that even “demons believe in God, and they shudder” (sure, God exists and is always watching, but do you act like it?!). But Rome preferred/established this as canon and you can see the repercussions everywhere today, particularly in the Godless, amoral West. How could they act right, when their ideological base is so flimsy and tolerant of sin?

Who’s holding anyone back, especially in something so morally neutral as this? Why do you think the unreasonable take is the common one? And if it were, who would you ask for it to be ‘normalized’? Shouldn’t we do what we think is right and avoid what we think is wrong regardless of whether it’s popular or not? Are people just afraid of calling out idiocy? You can do it kindly. Or are they afraid of confrontation with the stupids? And it’s always something shockingly silly like ‘normalize kissing your kids goodnight’ or ‘normalize talking about trauma with your parents who traumatized you’ like who the f told you not to and why would you ever take that person seriously?!

This is not something I particularly care about but this is where I come to e-shout my old man rants, thanks for reading! 🙏

Imagine meeting your Creator and when he asks you why you cheated on/abused your wife and destroyed your family and their psyches, or why you supported ideologically and financially the death and destruction of innocents around the world, or why you spread corruption in the land for coin, among other questions and you’re just “idk 🤷”.

The ‘I was just following orders!’ folks will burn in Hell forever, and the ‘but I didn’t know!’ when they could’ve easily known is definitely there in great numbers as well…

People who say “should be normalised” haven’t fully understood what free will entails, lol.

Words are the framework of ideas. That’s why it’s important to read good shit! 😅

Hopefully it sticks and it’s not just a phase from a person who doesn’t respect thought and does it sparingly…

Long-winded product of a quick brainstorm session incoming…

So, Americans will have two options:

1. Wait it out passively. Corporate infrastructure/services will become more prevalent and take the place of governmental agencies as they default due to debt and mismanagement (a position they’ve been put in through the decades thanks to defunding, with Elon’s DOGE being the latest of villains in this story). Get ready for corporate cities, and conglomerates being the de facto rulers of America. As governmental power wanes and after the eventual American balkanization, you’ll be part of the Amazon Republic of Arizona or whatever. Idk what happens after that.

2. Somehow, Americans fight both corporate and governmental power, through the creation of alternative supply chains, alternative (labour based, for instance) currency and become more self sufficient. Americans are heavily armed as well and, while incapable of fighting an army of drones, it should be enough of a deterrent (especially if the power structure collapses and infighting amongst oligarchs happens but these post American cooperative societies stand by each other). Communities with immigrants that still have connections to the civilized world might help bring foreign aid and intervention. However, this requires trust, empathy, prosociality, generosity and critical thought. You and I both know Americans are famous for lacking in all of those attributes so I don’t really see how they’ll get it together quickly (and no, American Christian dogma, which is even more cursed and against the actual teachings of Jesus than the Catholic dogma, cannot offer a solution).

God willing something will happen to snap Americans out of their white ethnonationalist, imperialistic fantasies and into love for humanity, and God does do miracles, but I’m not very optimistic. It might just be the new Sodom and Gomorrah, NGL.

Finally, there’s a reason the Western mind can only picture Mad Max when the government collapses: even they know they’re completely amoral and uncivilised, the only force holding society together is fear of legal repercussions/getting killed by the cops. By themselves, for the sake of being good and prosocial and to have some self respect, they won’t do shit.

It is, but it kinda is low on the list of things that Americans should consider as massive moral failings and indictments on their society. I mean, most people give Trump shit cause he’s the seemingly incompetent head of the empire, not because he’s leading the nation that has caused the most death and sorrow in the world for the last 75 years and that openly oppressed, until not too long ago, the same people they enslaved and dehumanised many years prior. The list is gigantic, NGL.

I don’t believe that, I believe that the terms stop having meaning when tyranny overpowers ideology.

Thank you for your concern, honestly. I’ll still try and see how insufferable they are, although they asked me about animal liberation and GSM (?) on the application so I have a feeling you’re right to warn me, lol.

Then maybe my understanding of “leftism” as a term is wrong. Just a little question, what political party would you consider “liberal”?

I’m sorry, I’m new to Lemmy. Thank you for taking the time to check, lol. Time to check them out and see if I’m annoying enough to fit in! 😅

Ehhh, the American administration has singlehandedly wrecked the world for their own gain pretty much since WW2, either directly through the murder of hundreds of thousands or indirectly sponsoring coups and sowing instability overall. I mean, even the invasion of Ukraine happened because of an American coup in Ukraine in 2011 (that, eventually, ended up with the actor in office) and Russia understanding this as the precursor of an American mobilization in Russia. And whilst the Chinese human right abuses are also monstrous and unethical, at least they’re localised? It’s a mishandling of internal affairs, not an external invasion and utter destruction. I’m sorry, but they’re not even comparable. You could say “if China had carte blanche like the US did through military supremacy they would’ve acted the same way” but I doubt it, because I’ve seen and lived around Chinese people and around Americans/Westerners and the cultures couldn’t be more different… Regardless, if we take away the maybes, you have to objectively admit the American admin has been a blight on this world, through leaders on “both sides” of the American political spectrum, moreso than anyone in recent history.

You can hate all three, or you can hate the American admin and give more leeway to those who haven’t yet shown they’re entirely Godless and immoral, and you can certainly prefer the Chinese and Russian admin for the same reasons, I guess.

You know what? I’m about to say it: I don’t care that you broke your elbow.

Isn’t Hexbear a leftist community? Aren’t leftists by default anti-imperialist and the biggest genocides in history and ongoing perpetrated by bloodthirsty empires? I feel like most people affiliated can’t be genocide deniers, come on…

I’m sorry, OP, I’ve just read that a couple too many times and I truly wonder what the reasoning behind it is. Is it just American right-wingers complaining? Cause, whatever, America is going full isolationist so we only have to listen to them for a decade or so before they firewall everything and Lemmy goes full German, lol. Or is it something else?

People keep on saying this but I haven’t noticed it. Am I just immune to being greatly annoyed by the delivery if the intentions are right? Show me where the hexbear touched you, OP!

Greed is an “intention” though, and the dodo case is just an exception. People are competent enough to live and even “succeed” often despite their incompetence, as seen by history. Intentional wrongdoing, particularly while competent a la Henry Kissinger for instance, has always been the enemy, not incompetent benevolence. We’ve always been able to accommodate the latter, I think.

Regardless, I meant “all that matters” when it comes to living with oneself and facing God, but incompetence certainly makes things hard for us here.