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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • It seems a little funny to claim I am here upholding an agenda. What I am is unsure. Unsure where you’ve read my moving goalposts when I have just stated I stand by my initial comment - which in fact does not lay the blame on the hospital, but the for profit healthcare industry in the United States.

    Tell you the truth, this thread has drifted into a commentary on my word choices and my general disinterest in disclosing my career history to someone on the internet, so bringing this to a polite close isn’t something I’m willing to try for any further.

    Consider my insufferable self to be backed down, apologetic, and thoroughly defeated.





  • I don’t make it a habit to preface a general comment by preemptively stating why I may be qualified to weigh in on a topic. This is the internet after all, not really a formal setting. My qualifications are just as irrelevant as yours here. While we may have insight that others lack, we aren’t doing anything but commenting on an article.

    Without going point for point as you have done, it should suffice to say that even now after I have reread this thread and what I wrote previously, the underpinning of my initial comment stands - these people were failed, and it shouldn’t have happened.



  • You aren’t the only one whose work has involved medical insurance.

    From my experience, it was quite uncommon for the practitioner themselves to be preparing and sending an invoice to the insurance company. Typically they would pass this off to the billing department, though in smaller places like a dental office I’ve seen the ‘billing department’ just be the front desk. It’s a touch misleading to equate the billing hospital with the doctor as if penning invoices is a shared responsibility between the two with each taking roughly equal part.

    In any case, it’s irrelevant. I’m not here arguing minutia about on which continent the responsibility specifically failed, nor whatever individual made an error. The system failed these people, even if the end result was only a momentary heart rate increase from seeing a medical bill until a phone call resolved the issue.

    If my underlying point remains unclear, I doubt I can clarify further.



  • I realise that, my connecting thought was that the hospital looking at their insurance policy should have been able to understand the pregnancy was covered. Even with it being unclear due to the contract’s wording, it should have triggered the billing department contacting the insurer for clarification.

    That’s not how America works though, they operate on a ‘invoice first, ask questions later’ approach. If one in a thousand bills get paid without question, the superfluousness is considered justified. Oh well, I would add this to my list of reasons to avoid the country if it weren’t so long already.



  • Sylvester said the couple “made 100% sure Issy was insured to be pregnant, and any complications involving pregnancy whilst we were abroad were covered”.

    Sylvester explained: “Essentially what they said is that we would have been covered had the baby not survived. But the fact was that the baby survived.”

    “We weren’t going to be covered for that, because we didn’t put his name on the insurance policy.”

    As someone that wouldn’t choose to travel into or through the United States, I can’t say I would be surprised if I got back home after this ordeal and the medical bills started showing up. US healthcare will charge for anything under the sun. I half expect visitors will be sent invoices for travelling in the vicinity of a hospital in the near future.