Do you save a copy of this response in a word file somewhere? I could swear just a few days ago I saw this same rebuttal to the same played out argument on a different post. I’ll have to start doing the same.

If you are suggesting not voting then that has no impact and neither does 3rd party.

That’s based on YOUR perspective. If your goal is simply to win every election then you are correct, but if your intent is to show that you will still vote, but not for the candidates or platform that the mainstream establishment is proposing to you than voting third-party is far better than not voting. Additionally, if people actually acted less defeatist before caving to the establishment and instead voted for a third party, then there would be a far better chance of the third party getting traction as the Democrat party Absorbs the Republican party.

Also, depending on what you want, voting for a third-party candidate may just better represent you. That’'s more than enough to vote third party. The absolute bare minimum political action you can choose to express your political values is to vote. Actions tend to speak louder than words, anyways. When people fail to do that, then It’s clear that they don’t even know what they want.

“How much do you want to bet that she gets blamed for Harris losing Michigan on Tuesday? Hell, they’ll probably blame the whole election loss on her if Trump wins.”

The Greens, too. The one thing they wont do is look within on their own strategy for accountability.

Partly, if you happen to be someone who keeps voting to perpetuate this same system, then yes.

is Rust ready for this?

To my knowledge upgrading to the newer release of any of those linux distros did not cost any money to the users, either.

That makes sense. I’ve long been frustrated by the realization that most American adults have reduced our politics down to a game like some sporting event. To so many it’s just my team versus your team above all else with no real rational thought being applied to the candidates or policies being proposed. Sure, a lot of people will give you why their team is the side of good and the other team is the side of evil, but given the greater context, it’s always seemed like a post-hoc rationalization. -When politics function that way, it’s no surprise that children might poll along the same lines because voters are acting like and using the logic of children.

In some states the major parties got certain candidates banned. Here in indiana the Green party is banned even as a write-in (try to make that make sense) but Cornel West as an independent is accepted and so is PSL candidate Claudia De la Cruz. In Georgia Cornel West and Claudia De la Cruz are banned while the Green Party’s Jill Stein is allowed. It’s worth checking out each candidates website to see which states they have “ballot access”…

[addendum] I feel like i’m committing an injustice if I don’t mention the Libertarian party which also has ballot access in every state, though I adamantly disagree with them.

The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

• Julius Nyerere

This could be a good opportunity to explore 3rd party and independent candidates that could really use your vote. There are some small benefits to voting 3rd party or independent over staying at home. Helping get a party to 5% popular vote gets them some public campaign funding in their next general election. It also shows the two Major parties that you are willing to vote, but you don’t like their platform. -That’s worth something. Lastly, politicians in the major parties like to co-opt policy ideas that originated in smaller parties. Did you know that AOC’s previously proposed Green New Deal idea did not originate in the Democrat party?

Well, I ask because the implications of your previous posts in this thread seem to be that you think third party supporters should just vote Democrat and work to change the voting process to RCV at the ground level but you don’t want to do it yourself. Then once they suggest you work on it…

“Am I supposed to do that for every cause I believe in or just the ones you say I should?”

so I asked if you believed in RCV, and anyways… There’s this famous quote that says “If you aren’t acting on your beliefs, then they probably don’t exist.” -maybe you don’t subscribe to that but my experience voting for the Democrat party is that they like a lot of things that are nice ideas, but in reality they don’t ever intend to act on them as if they believe in those ideas.

He alludes to sanctions being a factor but never clarifies on advice from his lawyers. ngl I don’t like the look of it just from a transparency perspective.

“Am I supposed to do that for every cause I believe in or just the ones you say I should?”

Are you suggesting you don’t believe in RCV?

Many Democrat voters do believe the propaganda, and I imagine it largely keeps them in line so they don’t start looking elsewhere. I’ve heard multiple Democrat voting family members and friends specifically state this year that they think “The Green party only exists to siphon off Democrat votes” It’s not just bots. Media is saying it because astroturfing works, unfortunately.

Obama was remarkably good at getting young voters out in record numbers at that time. My state went Democrat for the first (and last) time in 30-something years and when I looked at the county breakdown the newly turned blue counties were all counties with a major public university or multiple smaller universities.

what’s better for the establishment than a candidate that functions as an empty suit?

People really need to stop acting like the Green Party just came about in the last decade to spite the Democrats. If the Democrats had a decent platform they’d stop losing votes to them.

Deep down I think Liberals know this. That’s why they rage over it more every general election.

Addiitionally I find that Democrat supporters ignore the flipside of ridding the country of minor parties. The logic suggests that the Republican party would get an even larger boost of voters from the Libertarians. -That is if their reasoning were sound and applied universally.

Your account is a lemmy.world account and yet you seem to be complaining about people migrating to lemmy.ml in a lemmy.ml posted discussion?

I could swear there was a wildly similar version of this particular comic that was even more on point with reference to assembly call codes.

literal brain-damage.