Nobody said anything about claiming the Soviet Union was a peachy clean state. You are throwing your own presumptions in and arguing with yourself. All we are saying is that the state isn’t like how you thought it was. But you’d rather double down then consider a slight change to your perception.
Enjoy battling yourself. I am done talking to a man who talks past me.
“I spoke to locals”. And so have sociologists. Most Soviet states have around a 60% regret for the dissolution of the Soviet Union. It has its evils. A state is bount to rack them up. But the Soviet Union was better for its people before it and it’s people wishes it never went away.
This doesn’t absolve it of it’s crimes. But why does it’s crimes need to be brought up every time in the same breath? Imagine every time you talked about America that someone just shit canned you for every crime of its state. It’s infuriating, and allows for no actual conversation.
But sure, keep pretending like you don’t weight them differently.
Very rich to talk about gulags and KGB when America has the largest prison population in the world, legal slavery and the CIA, NSA and ICE.
Everything your bitching about exists here in the good old USA. You just ain’t any of the targets. But let’s ask Fred Hampton what it’s like to be one hmm?
You’re never going to believe it, but the answer was more complicated than the cold war propaganda told you. Shocker.
Yeah. You are on a communist majority platform. That’ll happen. Welcome to Lemmy noobie.
Man living in city thinks humans can’t cooperate.
You wanna start counting bodies? That doesn’t end well for the economic system that birthed the trans Atlantic slave trade, and currently provides the economic incentives for slavery systems to continue in 3rd world countries. But go off about 1500 prison sentences. Meanwhile I’ll Google the current American prison population, all of which are subject to slavery.
I just find it neat that former and current “communist” (broad term for this) countries have a high level of home ownership. People largely like to pretend that under communism you own nothing, while in reality, nations who even for a brief period of aspiring to communism had given what were peasants who didn’t own their own shirt a whole ass house and let them own it. No rent, No payment. Just supplied it.
It’s neato. An interesting statistic that dispels partially the myth that (what the OP said I think, it may have been another person) that communism never built wealth for anyone. It did at times. Just not in the way we normally like to view it. The american dream to own your own home.
But I am not willing to sit and argue every minute detail of this explanation. Such as when one person said “not a single one is communist” Which while technically true, is not worth the time to discuss with someone who is just using a very common bait.
Because it is self evident. Pretending you don’t understand is you acting in bad faith. If you actually cared about it instead of trying to bait an argument, you would be asking better questions. Instead you demand more to start a fight with and you will not get it.
Nah, you get it. It’s not hard to infer.
Nah. I think you get it, even if you’d rather pretend not to. But remember, you are what you pretend to be.
I think you get the point.
And yet… Interesting number i’d say.
It was never about you.
I have taken my chill pill. Apologies, it was way too angry. I am trying to argue less like that, deleted it the moment I sent it. Sorry it wasn’t removed from your inbox
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Victoria 2 ya casual.