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This is actually very easy. You can copy the files from the container, even while it’s not running, onto your host system to edit there, and then copy them back afterwards.

See the top answer on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22907231/how-to-copy-files-from-host-to-docker-container for step by step instructions on how to do this.

So an hour later, while logged out (in incognito mode) I am seeing your post on https://slrpnk.net/c/[email protected] and can find it on your home instance directly at https://slrpnk.net/post/14701745 - this is in addition to seeing it on https://lemmy.ca/c/woodworking and directly on the magazine’s instance at https://lemmy.ca/post/31909201

Also, the post likewise shows up for me when I view your profile on either your home instance at https://slrpnk.net/u/technomad or on the magazine’s instance at https://lemmy.ca/u/[email protected] (and again, that’s logged out and in incognito mode).

Finally, I see your post on lemmy.world in the same three places - the magazine https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected] , your profile https://lemmy.world/u/[email protected] , and the direct post itself https://lemmy.world/post/21403325

Sometimes posts from lemmy.world take up to three days to federate to my instance, so an hour isn’t too bad really.

Coming from someone who successfully did exactly that - because it’s quite tough. Immigration to most countries is quite competitive and expensive, with a lot of hoops to jump through. Those who can do it typically are much better off than the average Tommy and Gina (edit: Bon Jovi for those downvoters who don’t get the reference).

Unfortunately, true. Countries in the Anglosphere generally don’t allow immigration at all past the age of 50 or 55 unless you’re married to a citizen or something, so odds are good you aren’t even eligible to get in by the time you hit midlife.

And going outside of the Anglosphere requires becoming fluent in a language other than English - and even then it’s not so easy to immigrate.

Of course, one can always head to Svalbard - they don’t require work visas or residence visas, as per https://www.sysselmesteren.no/en/entry-and-residence/ - but it’s pretty cold that close to the North Pole. Plus you’d have to learn Norwegian.

Ditto, but this is actually a bonus for me.

“Didn’t you see my email and message last evening?”

“Not until I got in today, because it came after I had logged off and I can’t see that stuff on my personal phone because, you know, IT policy.”

So I’m not sure where I fit in. I run my own instance, but it’s a single user instance that only serves me. Also, I currently don’t run any magazines (communities) of my own.

If I was the user on Instance A asking on Instance B … well that means Instance A is my own, and I obviously wouldn’t get in trouble with myself.

If I was the admin on Instance B - a user from elsewhere was asking me to remove such content on mine - I’d go ahead and do it. Not worth the potential headache or ramifications that would come with refusing.

I think in general, the admin on Instance A would not be upset with the user. If anything, in this situation the user is probably trying to delete their account and history, so the admins of Instance A would be thankful that the user went to instance B and saved the admins the headache of trying to contact other federated instances themselves to coordinate a manual deletion. (The only thing worse than dealing with a GDPR request is trying to get others to help you deal with a GDPR request - particularly without pay.)

I’m not sure that even Lemmy has a monopoly on the fediverse anyways. But outside of the fediverse, breaking up the tech monopolies and enforcing net neutrality are steps in the right direction.

For the fediverse specifically, I’m not sure. One thing that might help is to make user accounts and magazines (communities) more portable. So if one signs up on the wrong instance, it’s easier to move to a friendlier instance. Currently, some folks seem to set up their own instance specifically for a community that they have planned explicitly to avoid this problem (but that makes it even harder to get a new owner if the mod-admin abandons the instance).

Of course, the technical bar to setting up and running your own instance is a bit higher than just signing up to, for example, fedia.io (And that’s just if you want to run vanilla - you generally have to be an actual software dev if you want to customize the software that your instance runs.)

But coding software, and moderating a community, or an entire instance, are all different things and I suspect that there’s not much overlap with the first one and the other two. So I don’t have any good solutions either, just suggesting that if the fediverse required everyone to set up their own instance to join, we’d likely be in a pre-Eternal September phase.

Ah, if only kbin.social hadn’t gone done, I would too be post 1-year mark. I replaced that one with my own instance, but that makes me look younger than I should be…

Hmm, but wouldn’t forking lemmy require you to create your own instance?

Eh, well, I’m aware of some folks who got banned from .ml because their views didn’t align well with the censors (or censor-admins) there. Meanwhile they’re welcomed elsewhere on .world and fedia.io, suggesting that it’s not a case of the individuals being bad apples.

Exactly. I avoid lemmy.ml specifically because the admins there are the same ones who run the commonly defederated lemmygrad.ml - so the instance isn’t particularly friendly.

Vote with your feet and move the community to a better instance, and hopefully some volunteer will message the old one detailing the move.

I ended up modifying the source code of my pyfedi instance to avoid this. It was mainly because the images were too large and (since my instance is for a single user - me) there wasn’t a benefit to hosting it separately rather than pulling from the original source.

I’m looking into doing this on my single-user instance. I’ve already modified the code so it doesn’t host images that get federated (it simply links to the URL on the original instance), but it would be good to lock things down a bit tighter.

To be fair, it seems that the way it works behind the scenes is using SSO and OIDC (see https://docs.activitypods.org/app-framework/backend/application-registration/ ) so applications would need to support that before.

Lemmy only added this three weeks ago, https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2930 and pixelfed still doesn’t support it directly as per https://github.com/pixelfed/ideas/issues/14

Likely the reason they went with Mastodon is because the support for the above is more mature there, but seeing as this is ActivityPub-based I think in theory it should work with Lemmy et al. (Doesn’t rule out there being app-specific bugs and such that need to be ironed out, but that’s often the case for new releases regardless.)

That said I’m having a bit of a hard time following the docs. If I’m reading https://docs.activitypods.org/architecture/authentication/ right you may not be able to use a lemmy.world account as your credentials - it seems like there’s some configuration on the “application” end to enable this, meaning the lemmy.world admins would have to turn it on for this to work. (But if you had it turned on and successfully working elsewhere and then posted as that other account to lemmy.world, it would federate as usual.)

My apologies, I got threads confused and you are correct that there was no such expectation as you were replying to the top-level comment.

You are also right on your other point - those mbin links are very useful!

In other words, no signs of life. These just point to mbin as the successor, but no mention of updates on the original edition of kbin or regarding kbin’s creator…

Mbin is indeed the way forward that the community came up with, and pretty much everything still up now runs mbin instead of kbin.

That said, it’s hypothetically possible that the investor of kbin returns tomorrow, fully recovered, and starts to maintain kbin separately from mbin. Very unlikely, but…

Following. I haven’t seen any indication in many months but I remain hopeful.

I appreciate the author taking a swing at this topic.

Agreed, me too. Also, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts regarding this - they’re very insightful.

It’s hard to pick out values that we all share because of the inherently chaotic nature of it. Perhaps that’s a value tho - diversity.

I agree. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect all of the fediverse to adopt a set of core values, not any more than we can expect all of the internet to adopt a core set of values. Certainly, there’s no one in a position to enforce them from the down top, at the very least.

most apps have between ghastly to ok accessibility.

I want to start off by saying that I respect you and your opinion very much. I think this is a serious point of concern, especially considering that a major reason given for the exodus that happened from a major website back in July 2023 occurred in part due to fear of loss of accessibility (which was an unintended consequence of API restrictions). r/blind moved to the fediverse primarily because of this point.

So basically, a failure here really feels like it would have serious ramifications for the fediverse.

There’s certainly groups on Mastodon who are keen on privacy, consent and accessibility but if you look at the features of the apps and how they’re constructed I don’t feel like those are really core values.

Agreed - but that just means there’s room for something new. Hopefully from the diversity of groups that you alluded to above, a privacy minded group with dev skills will arise with a new entrant to the fediverse here.

ActivityPub is a privacy nightmare

I’ve been doing some thinking about this. One (not yet fully fleshed out) thought I had was if content was retained on the original server (the one the community/magazine is based in) and others receive a new “CONTENT_LINK” type of ActivityPub message that points back to the original server. A good app/web UI can then fetch from the link to display the content - but this would happen client side and be meant to be analogous to a web browser fetching a page from a web server. I wrote more about what I had in mind in https://lemmy.world/comment/12109601

No billionaire can buy the fediverse and shape it in their singular vision.

This is a positive IMHO.

There’s a pretty strong anti-capitalist theme that comes up a lot.

That’s true. Time will tell if things like sub.club are able to move forward

The federated nature of things means people can find their own instance to call home, one that suits them and their kin

I’d call this, the power of community

without losing access to all the goodies of the wider network.

And this, going global.

Is this a value? What is the word for it? Self-actualization?

I think this is usually termed “having the best of both worlds”.

I should point out though that this isn’t entirely true. I don’t think that we can really say that this applies to folks who made their home on exploding-heads or lemmygrad, for example.

I was the only one who could create communities on them.

Typically the only one who can create magazines/communities are local users of the instance. With registration closed, that means only you (or the new instance owner) would be able to do this.

Though one can get around this with some bot magic ( lemmit.online had a magazine that was dedicated to new sub/magazine requests - once someone made the request, the bot would create and own the magazine but add the requestor as the moderator )

Do you intend to have open magazine creation on these instances or would that still be restricted to the owners of the consortium?