Nothing says peace prize like one taken from a person for invading their country.

Could preface it with “are you still in the return period for this thing?”.

In 10 yrs when those fridges die and people who “learned their lesson” go to buy a new fridge

That’s more like two years for Samsung fridges, where the designers and builders spend all of their time on fancy horseshit and ignore basic requirements like “keep the food cold”.

You know they (the Whitehouse goons) say that the Capitol Police officer that killed ashli babbitt “never faced charges”, this pardon language is so broad that he never could even if he did do something wrong (which he did not).

Trump’s proclamation commuted the sentences of 14 individuals and also granted “a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021.” This immediately covered roughly 1,500 people, including hundreds of defendants who were charged with assaulting or resisting law enforcement officers.

With this language, the guy retroactively created a federal anarchy zone for a period of time in Washington DC.

Ashli Babbit was a fucking terrorist and a rube.

Agree, but also I read a bit of her backstory (https://pluralistic.net/2025/07/22/all-day-suckers/) and it was full of things that happened due to regulatory / governmental policy failures and in a way was actually pretty tragic, just more in the “fell victim to multiple scams of various types” way rather than the “dedicated patriot who lost her life standing up for what is right” kind of way.

It wasn’t “understood”. They all wanted to stand on the dais. They all unbanned him from the platforms. They all threw their weight behind him as a candidate.

They are supporters of his. The whole “boo hoo, I only run a trillion dollar company so I cannot stand up to Trump” is a horse shit ass, bitch ass excuse. These people have more access to wealth, legal help, and other resources than any other people in history. They chose this. Some of them capitulated, and some of them collaborated, but it’s a distinction without a difference in my opinion.

Framework for one, but just about any other computer maker is better by that metric.

Such idiot, very blocked, wow.

Keep apologizing for Tim Apple! 🍏🍎

The turd was just the icing on top of the shit cake dude. They gave that jack off millions of dollars.

I’ve had a solid chuckle seeing that shit, and my opinion of Apple hadn’t moved.

Welp, then I guess you’re the type of customer they fully deserve.

I prefer my to buy computers from companies that aren’t actively combating repairability efforts for their products and purposefully making them prematurely obsolete.

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Gotcha, well best of luck to you

You could go used framework as well if any of those exist. You’d have to buy from eBay or something in order to satisfy your position.

I’d recommend the 13 over the 16.

Yeah they probably fed it a bunch of legitimate on/off content as well as stuff from people who used to do make “nudes” from celebrity photos with sheer / skimpy outfits as a creepy hobby.

Yeah, the whole situation sucks. I totally agree and wish that framework would reconsider their position on the matter.

The country is basically unrecognizable at this point IMO. The capitulation that has occurred so quickly in the second Trump term was stunning to behold. For a vast array of industries (computers being one of them), every reasonably ethical option feels like it flew out the window.

I get it, but also if I stopped buying everything from every racist / racist supporter, I would have no real options for laptops generally speaking.

Michael Dell is a complete and total Trump supporter. Should I buy an XPS?

Tim Cook designed and delivered a custom award to Trump. Knowing this, should I buy an Apple?

I understand wanting to vote with your dollars but in practice there are few or no ethical options for many things that you can buy.

Eh, I get it, but you can’t win every battle.

I have a 16 and a 13. I bought them both before that thread.

Right but who has like three grand just sitting in a checking account, that shit in a savings account because I’m not Bill Gates and I need every penny I can get from the interest?

Dude use a credit card.

That sucks. I’ve also had mixed experiences with their support arm but the hardware and designs are pretty top notch. It really is nice to buy a laptop that isn’t inevitably headed for the landfill in five years.