i dont doubt that. atleast that its your daily life. but a lot of stuff in my daily life simply is an edge case. nothing wrong about it. beeing on lemmy is all in all an edge case. i wish it wouldnt be. but in fact i have met so far only a single guy who even knew what reddit is in rl. let alone lemmy. with that in mind i want to go back to the phone with 32gb of ram but with a midspec 5 year old soc. yes, i can imagine someone which can make use of that configuration. it still is a weird ass config. case in point; every other hardware config of a popular current phones. so i dont really know whats your point with your screenshot and i dont know how i dismiss your experience. like wtf

i fucking mentioned edge cases in my first post

so, running 50+ instances of different programs at the same time is your argument why a phone needs 32gigs of ram. thanks for the discussion dear internet person. especially after i stated several hours ago there might be edge cases.

lmao. so you cant give me reason and just post some memes instead. fair enough. idgf. its a cool device. having 32gb of RAM is fucking rad on a phone. but its stupid. its an inbalenced configuration with that weak ass soc. that was my whole point. but you couldnt even prove your point on an academic level.

it is. i firmly state: fuck apple. now give me a single reason why an underpowered linux device needs 32gb.

fair enough, maybe i’m stupid(which i am) but give me a usecase for 32gb of ram. completly disregarding the fact that this thing is a phone. Using it as an desktop device via an usb-c hub. when do you need 32gb of ram involving software which isnt bottlenecked by a 5 year old mobile chip? My 12 core AMD 3900X and my 5800X3d ramp up their cooling fans before my RAM gets maxed out with eg Firefox. C’mon i already admitted that there are edge cases. But this configuration is weird man. Especially considering that linux in itself isnt a ram hog in general.

fair, but we’re still talking about 32 frigging GB of ram in a phone. not that it should count as a best practice baseline but apple sells 16gb laptops as the entry point and tbf at the moment its just enough and their performance is sitting in a completly different league

I dont need a laptop right now but damn this thing is sexy. Its been a long time since hardware gave me that “do want” itch even though i dont need it. Ryzen would have been great but even with an Intel SOC this thing is a compelling package.

Interesting, didnt know about the current state of eMMC. That would be certainly useable if its the new stuff.

Regarding the ram: Yeah, a lot of ram isnt bad. But it also costs money and i dont feel like that amount of ram in combination with the rest of the hardware is too beneficial. Maybe i lack the creativity but i dont see applications where you need that much of ram and wont be bottlenecked by that 5 year old mid tier mobile SOC. Like my desktop gaming rig has 32gb of ram and current flagship phones still use sometimes just 12gb and go up to 24gb in very rare cases. 32gb just feel imbalenced with the rest of the hardware.

This feels off. Just the hardware configuration doesnt make any sense. The soc will be over 5 years old when this thing releases. Those four a76 cores @ 2,4 Ghz wont wow you with their performance and would be a downgrade compared to a flagship with a SD865 released 5 years ago. Which is alright by its own tbh. But why the fuck combine it with 32gb of ram? Thats just excessive and apart from hyper specific edge cases this just doesnt make any sense. Especially when looking at the eMMC storage. Personally i already find UFS 3.1 painfully slow when it comes to desktopish usecases sometimes. But eMMC is just pure ass.

This is like buying a pre built with a 12100f with 128gb of ram and only harddrives as storage. Like there is probably a really small market for that. But for everybody else it would be just such a bad choice.

show me that magic llm which doenst infringe the copyright of nearly everybody, which doesnt have an unprecedentet impact on the enviroment to train and run, which wont be used to cut of people from their income, which isnt owned by technocratic billionaire assholes, which isnt peddled and promoted by fascist goverments, which doesnt halluzinate, which isnt a blackbox, which actually works and doesnt fail at the simplest tasks sometimes, which doesnt infringe my privacy(allegedly tbf, but you know). the list goes on.

sure, sure technology itself isnt evil. but thats not a hill i want to die on in case of llms. they’re problematic on so many levels. full stop. i dont think its a naive take to have some skepticism against this clusterfuck. potentially some technologies could make the world a better place. but llms dont fit into this category.

Why not both?

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Motorola G100/Edge S

Atleast here it can be had for under 200€ on the used market.

You need to unlock it via the motorola website. But then its fully rootable. Atleast with the retail unit i purchased.

Buildquality is good. Nothing fancy. Its mostly plastic. But it holds up quite nice after 4 years. The chromed plastic of the frame flaked a bit from my rough handling.

Removable sim and SD-card slot. Battery isnt removable. But its not the worst when it comes to repairability according to teardowns i watched.

But it has a headphone jack!(!!!)

Runs officially up to android 12. Last time i checked it should get android 15 with lineage.

Security… well there is only so much lineage can do with the official vendor support beeing ended like 2 years ago. But its good enough i guess.

That 21:9 1080p 90hz LCD screen is solid. 500 nits brightness isnt state of the art anymore but its more than useable.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 combined with 8gb RAM is still performing well. If your into emulation it handles most of the consoles well. Even switch and pc emulation apart from the most performance hungry titles.

Cooling isnt the best. Its just a heatpipe from the SOC directly too the battery. SOC will heavily throttle as soon as the battery gets to around 40 degrees C. That nets you around 20-30 minutes of the SOC running at full tilt.

USB 3 5gbs with display out is a really cool feature. Sadly with going custom rom you will loose the great ‘ready for’ desktop mode from motorola.

Its a bit big and heavy for my taste though. I switched to a smaller device as my daily driver.

All in all its great device for screwing around imho