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you are most definitely moralizing, comrade. not everyone knows how to opt out of using a credit card & not everyone CAN. Ok see, that lands better than calling ppl chuds and placing the blame directly on THEM.

What other VPN provider do you propose we use? Which one gets your seal of recommendation? Everyone in this business in the imperial core is a chud, because marxists are a tiny minority. The only other option if you want to remain morally pure is to not use the internet at all, which is valid, but if you have a bank account, go grocery shopping, buy stuff online, or work for literally any company, you participate in the system that perpetuates these chuds. Your boss also bankrolls far-right shitheads, he just doesn’t say it.

i’m not tech-privvy, also that is not the point. I’m calling out the actions of this dude, they are valid. i’m also explaining that 10-years from now as a defense is potentially dangerous. i was actually gonna ask you which one gets your seal of recommendation (not in bad faith). maybe & some business chuds can be observant in the trend that ppl want privacy, but if it can be acquired by the authorities, they will lose revenue.

idgaf about morally pure. i do have an issue with how that term is being USED in alot of cases that require nuance. u can use mullvad and criticize their chud founder at the same time. i also take a huge issue in the moralization of how ppl are FORCED to survive under capitalism but that’s another topic.

As long as mullvad’s service remains the same, which is definitely a question but not one that has been brought up, because all that has been brought up has been “cancel mullvad immediately”, then what exactly is “my” responsibility in this? that circus party works on 5M SEK, meanwhile the Moderate Party, the biggest right-wing party in Sweden - and also in government - made 140M SEK in 2024, with 100M coming from the State itself as it pays elected parties/officials. That’s not even talking about my actual national parties that have way worse politics than these Moderates do. We’re not gonna defeat fascism with the power of our wallets and individual actions.

I DID SAY I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THEY DO NEXT. Yeah, that’s why I mentioned the possible motives behind this post, and the motives of the article and why the dude was exposed NOW, WHILE also asking why the hell is this dude giving that much money to this particular party?

idk i’m a marxist that uses a marxist-leninist lense to broach these sorts of topics and i refuse to tell YOU what your responsibilities are. you’re your own person, you have ppl closer to u that know you and might provide a different perspective.

corporations we buy from every day do the same shit and worse. Proton fundraised for the (US) Congress outfit Freedom House.

Irrelevant.

5 million SEK sounds like a lot until you realize it’s 500k USD, not 5 million USD. I would still love half a million to do communist stuff with lol, but it’s not 5 million dollars.

Irrelevant. You’re minimizing this action. 500k usd makes up 70% of that party’s funding.

mullvad has no idea who I am and which customer of theirs I am. If you pay for your VPN with a credit card you’re a chump.

Where’s the evidence for that? Now YOU’RE moralizing, what are you doing to help ppl understand that they can keep themselves safe by not paying with a credit card? "personaly-responsibility"ing is uuuuuh, yeah, not the best framework.

they are also the only vpn with a proven track record of not leaking customer info, because they don’t have it.

Give me the evidence of this, not just words. Was there ever an instance of them being under judicial pressure? (which is what most corps break down under. i think i remember reading something about the telegram or signal ceo refusing to hand in its users private data.)

this is a tiny no-name party that he’s supporting. At least for now - in 10 years it could be an AfD situation. Current perspective is euro govs are going to ban VPNs faster than this party will win an election.

Irrelevant and (potentially?) dangerous. Just look at milei’s trajectory, openly known as a joke on TV around 2014 (exposure, normalization of his “”““antics””“”), made his political party in 2016 while using anarcho-capitalism as his stance, won presidential election in 2023. i agree w ur last sentence bc yes, this is true lmfao. And now with the current attacks on open source sites as a whole, the alternatives to the alternatives to the alternatives are even at risk lmfao.

the other co-founder distanced himself from that donation, at least publicly. Who knows if something will be dug up on him too later.

yeah I read about this. i wanna see what mullvard does now, if it’s a publicity stunt or competing companies playing dirty.

europe is fash central, and there’s also a LOT of fascists in software, including open software! (and just terrible politics in general)

What’s your intention in bringing this up? It doesn’t change the fact that one of mullvard’s co-founder is funding a xenophobic party. but i agree w everything else u said, being 100% private is not feasible, or at least not for now. where r the marxist hackers??? 🥺

from what i’m reading mullvard “distances” themselves from the decision of one of their dude’s PRIVATE decision to donate to that party. but dude’s still part of the team 🤔 i wonder if that will put pressure on them. i wanna see if they fire him or nah.

“comfortable” that’s moralization. and whether they are trustworthy or not, we can’t know. you would have to look at every single one of their members and what motivates them. if it’s purely for the moneyz, they will be easily bought. but the dude deciding to donate money to a political party could be out of ignorance or a strategic move. we’ve seen what happens w ppl that try to up-one w/e political party is in office, the hackers are bought and begin to work for intelligence services or they have to flee from country to country and go through one million hoops to avoid being found. but these are just assumptions.

if anyone wants to do the research of every single person that constitutes the mullvard corp., that would be a starting point but otherwise…

it’s the same w political parties. idk their motivations or ulterior motives. idk if they’re co-opting socialist language like the fascists or “third positionists” historically have done. that “left nor right” phrase that they use is what milei did here. either way, if they’re genuine, not providing safety nets will backfire on them.