How? How does this ‘fuck them’?
They can still access all the public data on the fediverse, because that’s how the fediverse works.
It seems like defederating will only hurt users of this instance by not letting them access that content
How does defederating do that tho?
(also, the update post clearly says to continue commenting, that the admins are still interested in different POVs)
I’ll answer both of your questions with one answer,
Because I only just now saw it and had things to say about it.
I mean that’s still pretty easy to handle though, give users the ability to filter specific instances from their “Hot” or “Active”
Hack you can even make the default automatically exclude meta instances from that.
If there’s one thing that the Fediverse has the capability of doing it is introducing real competition into the social media space though,
By defederating and cutting off users of that meta platform from the rest of the Fediverse you are strengthening metas monopoly though. You’re making it more difficult for people to leave that platform.
People choose a social platform based on the people they can communicate with. I still have to maintain a Facebook account because there are people on that platform that I need to stay in contact with. I don’t want to have a Facebook account but I have to because it’s the only way to keep in contact with them.
If Facebook federated and I could communicate with those people who decide that they want to stay on Facebook I could then get rid of my Facebook account. I could take advantage of the biggest benefit of the Fediverse and enjoy my social media experience on whichever instance I want without cutting myself off from people who’ve chosen to be on a different social media instance of some kind.
Federating with meta platforms will Make it easier for people to leave meta platforms. Anymore most people are only on Facebook because it is a monopoly and you have to be there in order to talk with everyone that’s there. Giving people an option to talk to people on Facebook without having to be on Facebook yourself makes it easier for people to leave Facebook.
I think someone needs to educate me because based on my understanding of the Fediverse all they have to do is access the data stream from this instance they don’t have to have full federation with them. If zuck wants your data they’re going to get it because that’s the way the federated platforms work.
The only thing that defederating would do is prevent you from accessing data from their platform. The only thing that de-federating them will do is prevent users on this instance from accessing or having communication with any user on that instance. If meta wants to get data from lemm.ee or any other federated platform All they have to do is read the data that’s published by the servers. There isn’t really anything that any fediverse instance can do to prevent other platforms from reading information. Just receiving.
It would be way safer for you as a user though to have an account on this side and then view content through federation.
By having an account on a meta-owned app you are giving them vast amounts of data whereas if you have an account here on the Fediverse, All they’re getting is what you choose to be publicly available on your Fediverse account…
I’d really don’t understand your logic here… Because all of the data on the Fediverse is available to meta by them. They’re going to be able to read all of that data regardless. As far as I can tell the only thing that defederation will accomplish is preventing you from accessing their data.
No the entire point of federation is that you don’t have to have an account on every single social media site in order to be able to have their content.
You make your account on the site of your preference and you can still connect and follow with the people who are posting to other sites.
There is no need to have an account on all of these different platforms when federation allows for an individual user to decide that they want to follow a different user on a the different platform.
Please explain to me, exactly how it would result in
Drowning in a deluge of their awfulness
Like I’m actually struggling to understand how federating is going to do that. Individual users can still control what shows up on their feeds through the things they follow subscribe and block personally. Why does the instance as a whole have to defederate? Why block and prevent users of the instance from being able to engage with parts of the Fediverse?
Because most of us have friends and family who we want to keep in contact with that aren’t nerds.
The fediverse is only ever going to be a playground for nerds until it has mainstream appeal or the very least is compatible with the mainstream. I want to be able to migrate completely away from having a Facebook account, but I can’t because there are people who I want to and have to stay in contact with on those platforms.
If meta added fediverse support to Facebook, that would mean that I could completely get rid of my Facebook account move to a fediverse instance somewhere, or even self host my own, and still be able to keep in contact with those people who are never going to leave the mainstream site like Facebook, X, Threads, etc.
I’ve been saying it for years that it needs to be a legal mandate that any social media platform above a certain size should be required to support ActivityPub as a way to prevent them from having such a monopolistic hold that prevents netizens from being forced to have an account on their platform.
Maybe it’s because I’m being short sighted, but I think the Fediverse is best when the individual users on the platform are the ones who get to choose who they connect with. Not the hosts of the instances.
Isn’t it pretty simple though, if you don’t want to see those posts, block them personally. Why make it so that none of the users can access them?
One of the biggest problems with Facebook has been it’s monopolistic control over social media.
People can’t migrate away from it because of the effective monopoly. I’ve tried to move social platforms dozens of times and the thing that makes me come back is the fact that there are certain people that are on Facebook that refuse to migrate. They are happy with the status quo over there. And the only way for me to communicate with them is for me to maintain my Facebook account.
Federation allows me to move off of Facebook and still keep in contact with those who refuse to move off of Facebook. I’ve always wanted Facebook to support federation for this big reason.
All of this translates to threads, there are some people who just aren’t nerds, people who aren’t like us and aren’t willing to deal with the growing pains of something like lemme or mastodon or other federated platforms.
There really is no benefit to de-federating with them that outweighs that as far as I can tell.
From the pictures you posted in the comments, I can tell that you have two SATA drives and one IDE drive.
Here’s a combo option that’ll do both types of drives. I have no experience with this particular model, but it’s what I would buy in your situation.
Hard Drive Docking Station, Tccmebius TCC-S868-US USB 3.0 to 2.5 3.5 Inch SATA IDE Dual Slots External HDD Enclosure, for 2.5" 3.5" IDE SATA I/II/III HDD SSD https://a.co/d/3tsrGon
IDE Drives can be slightly more complicated than SATA, So if you’re having trouble with the IDE drive, Read the drive dock manual carefully because sometimes those docks will require a certain setting on the drive.
The SATA drives though are super simple. Plug in your dock, plug the drive into the dock, turn the dock on, and the drive should just show up on the computer.
IMPORTANT: IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THE DRIVE MUST BE FORMATTED IN ORDER TO BE USED, DO NOT FORMAT IT
Formatting it will erase the data, if the computer is trying to prompt you to format the drive either the data has been corrupted and is already lost, or it’s not being mounted correctly. Possibly because the drive is in a format that your computer does not recognize. There are things you can do if this happens to you, but I’m not going to go into the details of that now. You’ll most likely not have to worry about that and if you do, you can come back and ask for additional help then.