“When I say pro-democracy I mean they aren’t explicity anti-democracy like the other people - they are just quiet about it altogether and since they aren’t telling me that they hate me directly I can respect and vote for that again.”
Brainworms.
Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
What’s your favorite flavor of paint chip? White or off-white?
Right and you have no ability to self-reflect because you dodged every single question proposed there. Many where rhetorical to get you thinking, but alas the brain seems not be a strong muscle for you so I apologize for putting you through the stress of attempting to use it.
The fact that you aren’t giving credence to these very real and valid points shows that you are unwilling to learn how and why a large percentage of the population feels this exact same way. No one owes the democrats a vote as you believe.
It’s ok keep voting for the democrats. See how much more Trump we get. Then you can blame everyone else again.
I don’t know how anyone can honestly believe democrats are pro-democracy when they literally locked the people out of the primaries.
It’s clear as day that they sabotoged the whole process.
It’s either ignorance or willful blindness.
Don’t ever expect change when you keep voting for the people who deny it to you.
"There are two main reasons why Israel’s self-defense premise is flawed. First, self-defense does not apply to an occupying state’s wars against those it occupies — it is not relevant for Israel in relation to the Palestinians. Second, what Israel does in Gaza violates all known conditions for self-defense, especially the necessity of war when peace is easily available, discrimination between soldiers and civilians, and the proportionality of harm inflicted in achieving military aims.
As a justification for war, self-defense is based on article 51 of the UN Charter, which specifies: “Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.” Barring Security Council authorization, this is the only legal justification for the use of force by states against other states. No mention is made of nonstate actors here. Nor is the analogy between individual and state rights that informs it conceptually unproblematic: states do not have the rights of individuals."
You can find countless articles like these.
Occupiers have no right to self-defense against the people they occupy.
Tell me the UN is anti-semetic and then go read a book, fool.
One of his points was to throw out pro-Palestinian protestors while proclaiming Israel’s right to defend itself. That’s really fighting the oligarchy.
Congratulations eggman. Big tent party.
In regards to this conversation they are not out of context at all. It’s alright. You want to believe in the false idol and throw reason out the window.
2028
“We must vote for Shapiro to save democracy.”
Bookmark it.
I’ll be 100% honest with you that I hope he proves me wrong in the best way possible, I just happen to remember the context of his recent history.
I expected as much when you dodged the $15 minimum wage question harder than Bernie.
What a cringey comment.
Context means nothing to you robot.
Losing by just enough is the point. Sounds crazy right?
I’m going to ask you your questions now.
In 2016 the vitriol for Hilary Clinton was clear as day while Bernie was gaining support from the working class of both parties and his populist messaging was hitting home. Why didn’t they run Bernie instead?
Bernie in 2020 had the largest grassroots cross-party working class interest even gaining an endorsement from Joe Rogan which AOC shot down quickly. He had the largest amount of small donors and was kicking ass in the primaries until the whole DNC conspired against him to make Biden the nominee. I have no doubt if he was as supported as Biden was he would have won with a mandate.
Why did the other primary challengers all fold one by one and throw their weight behind Biden who had received among the least amount of delegates at the time?
Why did Bernie fold and give that fundraising e-mail list to the DNC?
If democrats wanted to win so badly, why did they not amplify Bernie and his populist message time and time again?
Why did they do everything they could from labeling him a misogynist to a socialist in order to paint him in a bad light?
Why did they do everything they could to prop up the vastly less desireable candidate both times?
You sound like you carry water for the DNC.
You spelled it all out right there. Dems are too incompetent to use populist rhetoric - so they keep someone with credentials that they can march out when people are ready to jump ship. Bernie can’t be the nominee because if he were to win and subsequently fail and not deliver - exactly what the democrats want and would ensure - they could not march him out to smother the anger again in the next election cycle.
“We must vote for Hilary to save democracy.”
“We must vote for my friend Joe to save democracy.”
“We must vote for Kamala Harris to save democracy.”
Tell me - did they do it when they had a chance?
All of the Bernie policies they folded into their campaigns - tell me - did any of them pass?
$15 minimum wage was Bernie’s big issue to promote with Biden. How did that go? Out like a whimper. He doesn’t even talk about it anymore. Lol.
ps. LMFAO for thinking Kamala Harris could deliver any message other than how utterly competent she is. Did you not realize that she actually doesn’t answer question but talks gobbledygook around them?
Bernie is there to allow you to vent out your anger and usher you back in line with the corporate democrats.
Why did he throw out a pro-Palestinian protester this week?
Why does he only call it “Netanyahu’s policies” when thebvast majority of the occupiers think he’s right on track or not causing enough destruction?
Why does he only want to ban “offensive arms” sales to thay country? Weapons are weapons. What can be used for defense can be used for offense.
He’s playing everyone with words, and too many people are falling for it.
I find it hilarious that the person who actively supports murdering Palestinians is calling me a Nazi.
You must be from Israel.
Yes, and it would still be happening if your cadidate Holocaust Harris won also which is why I did not vote for her.
You would just be more comfortable with it happening under democrats than republicans because you are the prime example of #bluemagabrainrot.
Any democracy that votes in favor of supplying weapons and money to a state genociding an occupied people is no democracy I want to be a part of.
You might be ok with your politicians supporting innocent people being murdered while they sleep or eat or pray or walk down the street or take a shower or exist and that it’s all paid for by your tax dollars.
I’m not.
I think Kamala and Trump both were going to continue sending billions of our tax dollars to a terrorist state in the Middle East so that they could continue obliterating families living in tents with 1000lb bombs.
I know that whatever is being allowed to happen there will come here eventually whether you want to believe it or not. Gaza is a test ground.
If you can’t see how that state owns the politicians that are supposed to be representing you, I don’t know what to tell you at this point. There is are really big internal problems and crisises that those billions of dollars could be spent at home on. Instead they both greenlight evil.
I can honestly say I voted against genocide and against foreign influence over our politicians. Those who voted for Trump and Kamala cannot.
Since the majority of voters felt that genocide was not a red line, maybe now is the time to evaluate what morals and values actually matter for us to thrive as a society and start living them. For example: I will never vote for a politician with ties to the genociders ever again. That is the only way out for all of us.
Imagine if most people chose the anti-genocide candidates. That would have been really cool and not this disappointing disaster that feels righteously karmic in so many ways.
They conspired against the voters. I don’t know to spell it out for you.
Let’s use your reasoning:
The democrats conspired against Bernie two times. Why did he not launch his own party immediately in 2016 after Hilary’s humiliating loss? If he had 2024 could have been very interesting.
Both times the Independent senator from Vermont turns around and tells you to vote for the corporate democrat.
Many, many people (myself included) gave time and money and energy to Bernie’s campaigns to break out from the two-party system. Both times he says, “Nah, actually I can’t do this, you are better off voting for the same corporate shit you all hate.”
Did anything get better either time?
Why the fuck would anyone support someone who double-crossed them twice?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.