A lot of purely positive are against “balance” training where we use tools like eCollars and prong collars
Probably because science doesn’t support
But do go on with how anecdotally “they work and people just don’t use them right and all these are different things”
I think most reasonable dog owners will stick with proven science-based training and their vet recommendations. Anecdotally my vet said they are horrible. I even asked another because I had a friend who swore by them at her training school. Anecdotally two vets said the same thing .
Anecdotally one of that trainer’s personal dogs she used prongs and ecollars to train mauled a kid and another dog at her training school so now she’s getting sued
Anecdotally, of course
Man of Steel Woman of Kleenex by Larry Niven is a weird take on this