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the only thing libs need in politics is being 1% better than their apparent enemy

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You should really read about autistic advocacy before debating about the ethics of editing out autism/autistic traits from the human genome.

https://autisticadvocacy.org/ https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan/what-we-believe/

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Hey what are you some kind of Russian bo-

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Checks Constitution

(Yes this is cringe but I want it that way)

Thank you for your comments they are packed with good info btw

Yes

Uhhh the “National Socialist” Party was fascist, right? Entities posing as socialist CAN lie and actually be fascist, correct? Or is this western propaganda too?

Wait 'til you learn that urinal cakes aren’t yummy baked treats

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So many words to tell us you’ve read zero theory…

Also, how on earth is “Fuck cars” a successful “socialist experiment”? The biggest action anyone associated with that movement is flatten a few tires from SUV’s

Hexbears deny the genocide against Uyghurs in China

Denial of the persecution of Uyghurs in China

human rights concerns in Xinjiang

China is treating its Uyghurs well.

Uyghurs in China are being oppressed.

It’s a weird thing to lead a discussion with the term “genocide”, and then use it interchangeably with all these others terms, getting noticeably less precise the deeper into your post.

Also:

They control what their citizens can see on the Internet, monitor every communication happening through their messaging apps, and often detains, without trial, dissidents who dare to call out the government for its wrongdoings.

This is America, lol.

People, particularly the wealthy, try to fuck things up for their benefit because capitalism has so deeply engrained in them a sense of rabid and egocentric individualism, and has taught them that having more than others makes them good, and if they have more than others it’s because they’re good.

The poor are “abusing” social systems because many of those systems lock them into poverty, where they’re forced into a game of economic limbo, which withholds any/all benefits if they earn too much (which is still not enough to live on), or they do things to receive more support than what the state says they are owed with the goal of having an acceptable standard of living, if they can even achieve that.

Neither of these problems will be solved by people “getting better over time”, and in fact, we are all observing these things getting worse and worse. Reforming social safety nets can maybe provide a solution to the latter problem, if they’re drastic enough. But, imo, communism provides the solution to both.

Right, now Tankie is all but useless because liberals and so-called leftists that criticize communism use it the same way conservatives use “woke”

Richard Wolff, a prominent marxist academic, talks often about a socialist system where democracy is employed in the workplace. He focuses less on reforms or abolition at the state/government-level, and instead emphasizes the bottom-up changes that giving workers power and agency (i.e., making it so workers at all levels are involved in the decision-making process of the companies that require their labour) provides. He has a youtube channel and podcast called “Democracy at Work” that provides great introductions to how he views things, and he has worthwhile podcast appearances on other podcasts like Lex Fridman’s, for example.

Consider how impactful countries like Wal-Mart or Amazon are in our daily lives. Their economic throughputs are larger than all but a few countries in the world, and their workforce populations are also larger than many countries. Clearly they aren’t organized as representative democracies?

Another question I wonder related to this, is what exactly makes “representative democracy” the gold standard? Is it even the gold standard?

What about the absolute lack of “representative democracy” we experience under capitalism?

I’d argue that the capitalist system is more at odds with representative democracy than other systems mentioned. Most workers have no say in what is produced, who produces it, how they are paid, how much products are sold for, etc. Instead, we end up with figurehead CEO’s and nameless investors making all of those decisions, and of course they do everything to minimize costs, maximize profits, and disempower workers so that they can collect billions of dollars at the expense of the workers who actually make their companies run. If we had representative democracy do you think we’d have billionaires?

Middle class between what

Lmao, this is such a good one

maybe about politics but not about a tv show or harmless interest 🤝

I (and I’m sure tons of community members from different communities) appreciate how responsive you’ve been throughout the thread, and I just want to share a thought to your reply. You said:

I think this question is bait, but I will answer in good faith with an example to hopefully drive the point home.

Posting “[hammer and sickle] 10 reasons why we need communism…” is clearly not Kremlin propaganda. Posting “[hammer and sickle] Ukraine shouldn’t even exist, long live CCCP” is clearly Kremlin propanda.

This example is like a 10/10 easy slam dunk, but I think the concern that many users have about alleging “Kremlin propaganda” is that there are an infinite amount of examples that are much harder, if not impossible, to clearly distinguish. It’s these grey areas, which are also far more common, that prompt different degrees of skepticism or uncertainty about the terminology and its application. It’s easy to apply the term to extreme and unlikely hypotheticals, but to apply it to actual conversations is a different task

Hi, I’ll try and share my 2 cents here

Is Hexbear a former left-wing “forum” now taken over by fascist trolls?

Big no. Hexbear is made up of a diverse group of people whose political views generally fall under one or more of the big umbrellas of “communism” or “socialism”. Users on hexbear also hold and exchange a wide range of views about the USSR and Russia. Despite the range of views on some issues, we are explicitly anti-capitalist and anti-fascist (and generally speaking, we use these terms mindfully; i.e., we don’t call everything we don’t like _______), and we love our trans comrades.

In OP’s post and in your reply, I can’t help but focus on the term “kremlin propaganda”. I’m not the most well-read person ever, so I have trouble understanding what they mean by the term. Whether the “Kremlin” is in reference to the USSR of old or today’s Russia is unclear - and I think that is a worthwhile distinction. Also, many hexbear users have been accused of spreading “propaganda” when posting anything remotely political, especially if it counters the prevailing narratives of the US, NATO, etc. Hopefully a more knowledgeable user can provide some clarity on what is (and isn’t) “kremlin propaganda”?