To be fair I don’t think anyone here is the target audience. The target is the 99% of the world who aren’t onboarded to crypto. Fluffy said it best when he described Tari as a “Trojan Horse”. https://youtu.be/FSe8IXJO6nI https://youtu.be/zmeSSnppixY
We need something to get people into the space and we need it to be private by default.
It’s absolutely a sales pitch but I’m sorry to hear I’m doing it badly.
I don’t think I need to convince anyone here to accept it since the work that the architects put into Tari will speak for itself.
I love the idea of distributed computing and the way I see it, Monero has always had the most potential to grow and be adopted because of it’s privacy features. But we haven’t seen that in what people are building. ETH and SOL are blowing XMR out of the water when it comes to available dapps. I think Tari could be like the ETH arm of the Monero distributed computer.
I think there will be a lot of push back from hardcore Monero users who want absolute privacy and offering anything else is unacceptable.
I’d counter to say that maybe that works for you but it clearly doesn’t work for everyone. We’re getting maximum privacy at the cost of user experience and it’s causing adoption to faulter.
We all agree that we’re not seeing the wave of adoption we’d expect with such an important project. One reason for that may be the sacrifices we’ve made in the name of maximizing privacy.
Tari is a way to have both, maximum privacy and some compromises that will increase onboarding. All while increasing the XMR hash rate through merge-mining.
If anyone wants to help me out you can use my referral link: https://airdrop.tari.com?referralCode=2EU6QNZ0Pi
So we could get an early bird bonus and they could estimate interest.
Isn’t the jurisdiction of the ban is only in the US?
He did a great job summarizing the ideas and reasoning behind FCMPs. The Monero community is really lucky to have someone with his talent contributing.
Donate if you can! Full-chain membership proofs sound like they’re worth it!
Here’s a little more of an in-depth look from Luke Parker: https://www.youtube.com/live/rwA5L1LwSUs?feature=shared
I know there’s a resistance to centralized exchanges but I can’t see this as anything but bad for people’s access to Monero.
Kraken has always been reputable and delisting from here means millions of people are losing an easy to use on-ramp for Monero.
It reminds me of sanctions in Russia. Sanctions don’t totally restrict access to western goods like Levi’s. They force customers to buy through a middle man who takes a cut. This increases the cost and effort to buy which results in less people buying and using whatever good.
The code trevador used was adapted from Monero’s PoW code.
Monero also gets a lot of use on Tor sites. Some people who like private money also are drawn to other private spaces online. So helping the Tor network beat the DDoS attacks it’s been under is good for Monero.
Both are somewhat tangentially related to Monero.
If you trust them, which it seems like you do, to not sell your information for advertising purposes then maybe thats true.
They’re still sharing your personal information with others. Maybe you trust Google to not use the information stored in your drive for ads or to sell you shit but do you then also implicitly trust every corporation that that give that data to? To you then also trust those companies to always handle and treat your personal information with the respect it deserves for all time?
Here’s a relevant quote from their privacy policy:
We provide personal information to our affiliates and other trusted businesses or persons to process it for us, based on our instructions and in compliance with our Privacy Policy and any other appropriate confidentiality and security measures. For example, we use service providers to help operate our data centers, deliver our products and services, improve our internal business processes, and offer additional support to customers and users.
If you’re OK with Google using your personal information to sell you adds or with then selling your personal information directly, then it’s a fine option.
Again, i’s a privacy issue. Some people are OK with giving up privacy for convenience, and that’s fine.
Lack of privacy is a huge reason. If you’re OK with Google scanning all of your photos to sell you adds and build their AI then it’s a fine option.
We can’t spend inputs till they reach 10 blocks though right?
It’s likely a choice that was made to add novelty and cater to the American pallet.
It’s novel because it’s not how it’s typically done. It’s not done like that normally because they’re worse than coins.
Monero has mechanisms for validating supply:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vW9H6VIONWM&t=174s
If you’re going to repeat this argument ad nauseam then at least don’t do it in a misleading absolutist way.
Same here.
I like coincards.com. They’re not paying me to say that, I’ve just found their service useful.
Some nonprofit organizations are corporations and have pretty shitty practices:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Wish_Network
The Morman church is another US ‘non-profit organization’ yet somehow hordes billions.
Trusting blindly without doing research because something is presented as a non-profit is a good way to be taken for a fool and separated from your money.
When signal made their own cryptocurrency which they entirely premined was a huge red flag. Dropping SMS support was an annoyance that broke the camels back.
That’s what they told me when gave then feedback through their website.
There’s no free lunch and corporations aren’t the most trustworthy source of information though so maybe it was about cost.
As a few examples
Removing mordinals was a maximally private idea. Adding templating to Tari was done as the flip side of this, to maximize how many people can express themselves on chain.
In monero vanity addresses are not possible on chain to maximize privacy. In Tari every address is made of emojis that are encouraged to be shortened with yats.
Smart contracting is huge, it gets people excited. Tari can be like the smart contracting platform monero needs to get people using privacy preserving technology.