(This one seems a little familiar, but I can’t recall if I’ve seen it here. Sorry if repost)
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I have been rewatching some franchise media that got bad receptions (new star trek movies, matrix reloaded, The Phantom Menace) and I have been feeling a lot more charitable to these works than I was the first time.
In this spirit I watched The Hobbit again and it is truly awful.
I seem to recall there being a pretty good fan edit that condensed it down into one long movie and cut out all the unnecessary love triangle stuff.
It’s called The Tolkien Edit
I enjoyed watching that when it was first created! Any word of a 1080p for that one? I’d even take a release of the timestamps so that I could make the edit to my 1080p versions.
There’s a few. I watched the M4 book edit recently and it’s pretty great.
Certainly cut out a few scenes I liked, but its goal was to be book accurate and it does a great job IMO.
https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit/
The list of changes is remarkable.
I can wouch for this one. Very well done. I wish they cut out more Alfrid time though.
Alfrid makes me understand why people hate Jar Jar so much.
You like Jar Jar?
I like Darth Jar Jar. I want video genAI to execute what it was really built for and replace Dooku with DarthJar.
Like is a strong word I think. I don’t mind him. But I was a kid when Phantom Menace came out, I didn’t really fully experience the original trilogy before I saw it. So that’s why - for a kid it’s a fun goofy comic relief. So might have liked him back then, which moved my tolerance for him in adulthood. Didn’t see the movie in years though.
LotR is sacred to me on a similar level like the SW original trilogy was sacred to the die hard SW fans back then, probably. I can’t say I hated the Hobbit movies (though they are clearly inferior - the edit really saved them), but I hate Alfrid with everlasting passion.
Is this the same edit made by Tolkien Editor or is it another cut?
It’s a different cut. Tolkien Editor wrote he edited over a weekend, the maple edit took 2 years.
Another edit is https://m4-studios.github.io/hobbitbookedit
Which is closer to the book, whereas maple is a bit more action/cinematic and hints at LOTR plot.
Thanks.
The Matrix Reloaded is legitimately a good movie. It’s a little heady, maybe a little too up its own ass at times (the Architect scene is pretty baffling in the moment, although it ultimately comes together and makes sense in the context of the greater story), but worldbuilding is on point, the action is some of the best in movie history, and has enough of a cool factor that the Wachowskis were given passes on all of their box office bombs for 2 decades after the fact.
The Matrix Reloaded is legitimately a good movie.
Other than that 3 hour dance scene, I agree
I wish it was that long :/
Prequel to 8 sense
Reloaded was well liked. Revolutions was widely panned. I also rewatched them both recently (all four plus the Animatrix in order, actually) and I found that I liked them more on rewatch, a couple decades later, than I did initially.
I recommend giving the X Man Series another try. I recently did and it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. The original timeline just feel like perfect cheap action movies from the 2000s. Brought me back to my childhood. Same with the “Unbreakable Trilogy”
On the other hand, rewatching any season of True Detective is doable.
When she’s crying over her dead dwarf:
“why does it hurt so much?”
“Because it was REAL!”
Has to be one of the worst, cheesiest and badly acted interactions in movie history, it’s up there with all the romance scenes in the star wars prequels. I cackled when I first heard it
It’s very versatile though. Every time my wife asks “why does it xyz?”, in my most dramatic voice “because it was real”
She hates it lol
I thought Evangeline Lilly was always decent on Lost, but boy, that line was bad. Then she had to go super “do your own research” during the pandemic and now the phone aint ringin.
Oh shit, is that why she fell off? I had no idea
Is this the hobbit? I stopped watching after the first one betrayed young me so badly.
Their worst sin in my opinion is actually how they split off the end of the Smaug storyline to be resolved in, like, the first five minutes of the third movie (literally before the title) rather than resolving it in the second movie. Huge pacing mistake.
WHAT? Like, I know that the battle and stuff does happen after Smaug, so he’s not the final event of the book like you’d think, but I can’t imagine jumping into the third movie for a weirdly quick pay-off and then watching them drag out the battle for basically an entire movie.
God the more I know about these movies the happier I am in my choice to just cherish the book on its own.
There are plenty of huge errors in these movies, but the pacing of Smaug’s demise was one of the better deviations.
I recommend watching the third one, not because it is a good movie, but because it is a hilarious movie.
That’s the right way to do it.
Some people have to keep watching so they can get mad, and make people who like it feel bad.
But how would you cram in some unnecessary romance without dreamy eyed elves?
D’ye no find these eyes a wee bit dreamy?"
Those eyes are crazy
But that damn beard is so fluffy, I’m gonna to die.
He’s a dream, but I’m biased as I match him in height, figure and beard.
But are you dangerous over short distances?
I can only assume, yes. I’m not getting into many arguments with orcs these days.
Well… you know what they say: if Frodo can go to Osgiliath…
The people they fight for are mostly not in the book either so I don’t see a problem
