• ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Just go check facebook under any remotely political post, there will be endless rabid reactionary and violent anti socialist comments. Thats where we are at in american consciousness. Its like impossible to even talk to conservative boomers because you have to hold their hands thru the simplest most basic of social and economic relations we LIVE WITH EVERYDAY that are seemingly obscured from them. To even get to the starting line you have to untangle so much incoherent nonsense and instinctual ideological jerking

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      23 hours ago

      or, you know, you could be strategic and stop making politics an identitarian issue to avoid such reactions. Mamdani won despite defining himself as a socialist, not because of it.

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        “The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.”

        ~ The Communist Manifesto

        Instead of “Social-Democracy”, whose official leaders throughout the world have betrayed socialism and deserted to the bourgeoisie (the “defencists” and the vacillating “Kautskyites”), we must call ourselves the Communist Party.—Lenin

        ~ Lenin April Theses.

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          are you aware the world of communication, identity and political decision-making resembles very little the world they were living in? Do you think a century of anti-communist propaganda does nothing and it will magically disappear if you state your identity hard enough? So egocentric.

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        22 hours ago

        Absolutely unhinged take. Might as well have bleached his skin before he ran for office while he is at it.

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          20 hours ago

          his voter base is people of color, wtf are you talking about? That’s helping him.

          He just represents novelty and anti-establishment values like talking about the problems of working class people, in the same way Trump does, but he does that without appealing to fear or hate. That’s it, that’s why he won. The rest is just ornamental. He defines himself socialist to get traction and participation among volunteers, but for the voter base, that’s not helping him.