I can wear a dress to work and nobody criticizes me. I’d be really sad if I had to wear pants all the time, they’re just not as comfortable. Let’s normalize pretty dresses for dudes!
Yea, but let’s design some to work on male bodies. Dresses are generally built for female body shapes, and rely on curves most guys just don’t have in order to complete the shape - so we end up looking like Graveyard Barbie in them.
Guys tend to be a lot more oblong, and the overall design would need a rethink in order to actively work with that shape, instead of unsuccessfully trying to compensate for it.
No, I don’t know how to do this.
My first thought when I read op was that trousers are a relative new development.
The Romans made fun of the Gauls for wearing them.
So if you decide to wear traditional Roman dress, trousers shouldn’t be included.
But it’s still designed for men.
Pretty cool how the Romans just took a good idea from a more primitive culture. Guess there wasn’t anyone around to scream about cultural appropriation.
The Romans calling the Gauls primitive is a bit like the British calling the Americans primitive.
True, but for Gods sake don’t look in the mirror.
Dudes in parts of Africa and the Middle East have already got it figured out. Djellabas look fantastic on most men. I’d love to see more people wearing them.
Consider: kilts.
I was a slutty nun for Halloween and looking cute in a skirt is definitely possible, but man does it take a lot of work to find anything that fits decently. Dresses are simply impossible to find of course because, as you said, the shape is not at all made for men.
Also that outfit made me want to go full f1nn5ter and dress up in feminine clothes all the time lol. It’s so much fun! I’m so down for people to figure out how to make the shape work for masculine body shapes.
I was a slutty nun for Halloween
Just don’t make it a habit.
I don’t know if I could keep that vow.
More like Robes than Dresses, maybe? Could start with some Indian or Middle Eastern fashions as a starting point…
Yeah, a men’s salwar kameez would make a damn good start, but I don’t want to limit it…
Love my khurta
Honestly, one thing I hate about being biologically male is that men’s clothes all look so goddamn generic.
Oh, you’re wearing a suit. It’s. A suit. I guess. They all look the same.
You’re wearing jeans. And a t-shirt. And they all look basically the same.
Khakis and a polo? You madlad. Well, you and everybody else at the country club. Who all look exactly the fucking same.
The thing that really gets me is, it didn’t used to be this way. You look at pictures of people in paintings and whatnot and men had some wild shit going on. There was variety, if somewhat less, even into the early 20th. But… seriously tell me if I’m wrong here… it feels like we got to WWII and men’s fashion just stopped. Like an entire generation of men put on uniforms and eighty years later we still haven’t completely taken them off.
What does this have to do with being biologically male?
Aren’t males born wearing cargo shorts and a blue polo?
Not sure about other places but most women around here wear clothes that are mostly the same as well it’s not exclusive to “masculine” clothes
That’s good IMO
As a man I never considered pants to be uncomfortable. They are the perfect mix of range of motion, hiding the private parts. and support. Dresses, skirts, and robes seem like a nightmare to wear. You either restrict your range of motion or have to constantly worry about showing your underwear. And I would wear boxer briefs underneath by choice anyhow, so I still end up wearing pants.
I think the bigger issue is that most of us men are too lazy to look for different kinds of pants and end up wearing the same stuff year-round. Which can indeed become uncomfortable due to changes in temperature. But that issue wouldn’t be fixed by having access to dresses or robes. As again, some would either be too cold or too hot.
Anytime you want to try it with a bath towel you might realise she’s right. The only thing creating a problem is when it falls off.
I used to have a pretty intense not-like-the-other-girls fase in my teens, and I never wore skirts or dresses, and felt the same way you do. Then I got over that internalized misogyny and started experimenting with clothes a little, and the first time I put on a dress it was like a hallelujah moment. The most comfortable thing in the goddamn world. They do not restrict your movement at all, that’s only a problem if you wear knee-high pencil skirts of stiff fabric. In colder seasons you wear leggings under them which are equally comfortable. It was so incredibly comfy I did a complete 180 and it took me 10 years to wear a pair of pants again, and that’s only because the waist high mom jeans in style now are so loose and non-restricting. Any other style of pants I won’t touch with a 10 feet pole.
Always thought this guy was a boss!
The fucking SWAGGER. Thanks for sharing that, it made my day.
I’m a woman and I’m confused as to how you find dresses and skirts comfortable. They’re a pain in the ass, uncomfortable, look terrible on most people i see in them and pants are way more comfy if you buy the right ones. And most offices are freezing cold year round anyway.
You need better fitting dresses and skirts then. Are you only wearing tight/form fitting dresses? Of pencil skirts? These are terrible indeed.
Nice, flowy dresses? Pure bliss! I hate wearing pants in the summer, it’s way too hot.
Nah they all suck and are uncomfortable. Form fitting clothing sucks in general, but flowy dresses are still uncomfortable because you have to be careful of how you move unless you want everyone accidentally seeing your bits or your ass. Also still got the problem of the fabric bunching up getting in the way. And they still look terrible on anyone whos not rail thin.
No, they’re all just uncomfortable. Flowy dresses aren’t any better than non-flowy, but tight dresses feel better than the loose ones, which just feels like nightgowns (which I don’t like either). All of your skin sticks together unless you’re wearing hose or something underneath and there’s nothing worse than dealing with hose.
Different people are different. Not everyone likes the same things. This notion that skirts and dresses are universally comfortable isn’t any more correct than saying everyone wants to wear pants all of the time.
A friend has a degree in fashion design and her senior project was a clothing line that you ordered by measurement instead of men’s/women’s sizing so it was supposed to fit a person not a gender.
Stop normalizing everything just do what you want it doesn’t have to be normal. I like wearing track shorts, they’re comfy.
I still have to wear a full suit :'(
That totally sucks, are you in a customer facing role or is it just the office culture?
I’m a teacher at a private international school.
but nobody “has to” wear pants. im not wearing any, and if I can do it anyone can
Kilts.
I’ll wear a kilt in a heartbeat!
