• Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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    3 days ago

    Good, an influencer in the millions of followers is bringing visibility to FOSS and independent technology.

    Bad, he said the n word once and joked about jews when he was in his early 20’s.

    Devil’s Advocate: If pewdiepie was really a nazi, his channel wouldn’t be about gaming and tech, it would be two spaces away from Joe Rogan in your podcast app. The dude is harmless.

    You guys don’t really get it. Back then, people blurted out edgelord shit whether they meant it or even understood it just for a meme or repetition or even quell nervousness on a livestream. God forbid any of you hear recordings from Xbox Live circa 2010.

    All this “is he still a fascist talk” speaks volumes. He never was.

    I said edgy shit and the n-word online when I was a teen, am I a fascist? Nope, voted blue since Obama and my cousins are hispanic and well loved. Kids gonna kid, adults grow up, realize wtf they were doing was idiotic and move on.

    If you’re witchhunting fascists and you land on pewdiepie, start back at the top of your list. Your fascometer’s sensitivity is too high.

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      You don’t have to be a committed fascist to be criticized for normalizing fascist dogwhistles and symbolism. “Other people do it too” is not a good excuse either.

      That being said, it was a long time ago, and I do think he understands it was stupid and wouldn’t do it again.

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        Joking about jews or saying the n word never made anyone a fascist. Fascism didn’t even include antisemitism, it was just added later on because of Germany’s policies. Calling pewdiepie a fascist is wrong intellectually, historically, politically and ideologically.

        The only people normalizing fascism are the ones calling everything fascist and making the word lose power and giving new blood to the idea of fascism.

        Fascism is a very specific thing, born in a very specific country and with a very specific ideology. Not every authoritarian country is fascist. Not every racist idea is fascist.

        People were idiots before fascism. And they can be idiots without being fascists now too.

        It’s the same as calling communist everyone that ask for minimum wage or free/cheap healthcare. It’s dumb.

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          And you don’t have to be a fascist to spread fascist propaganda and dog whistles. Nobody said “PewDiePie is a fascist”.