• archonet@lemy.lol
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    1 day ago

    that sounds like the dumbest horseshit I’ve ever heard of, both because an educational journal is built on its reputation, and because even if it were true, you’d still be wrong to imply that’s a bad thing for a different reason: proving some other guy wrong is part of the process.

    let’s assume – even for a brief moment – you are, in fact, 100% correct with this claim.

    You’re almost definitely not, but hey, let’s assume.

    scientists are all about being right, so much so that they loathe their own frauds (watch some BobbyBroccoli documentaries if you don’t believe me), and they also take extreme pleasure in disproving each other. sometimes, good science is in trying to disprove what some other guy or some other team said because “I want to be right/I want that fucker I hate to be wrong (we’re all petty humans, even scientists)/I want us to understand the world better, and we need to know if this is in fact as they claim”. Peer review is ingrained in their doctrine, that’s what good science is. You think if someone, a person with enemies, competition, and friends alike, got their paper in one of the most prestigious educational journals in the world, someone, somewhere wouldn’t be going “nuh-uh! I bet I can prove otherwise!”? And at that point it’s two scholars betting their career dick to swing around that they’re right and the other guy’s wrong, unless of course peer review actually means that prestigious journals generally don’t publish horseshit.

    in short: your claim is not only wrong, it is… a fundamental misunderstanding of how science works as a concept, I feel? Maybe not always in practice – there’s always politics sticking their dick into the mix to muddy the waters – but that’s part of what these journals pay and charge for. Prestigious peers. To review papers and generally make sure that nothing they publish is outright bullshit.

    now, are they fair prices for knowledge that helps us all is another debate, but suffice to say: going “fuck you I’m gonna find out if you’re wrong” is literally part of the job.

    Are you just, like… not that bright? Or is this just a transient phase, a hard night for you?

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      2 days ago

      the problem with this is you wrote an epic takedown. it took you so much more time and effort that the pigshit you replied to.

      this world isn’t fair.

      but you deserve more, you nailed it

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        2 days ago

        it’s not about a takedown, really, I’m not trying to be mean (not especially hard, anyways), I just want to understand what Nature, or science as a whole, did to piss them off enough to make shit up about it. Or if they’re just having a bad day they oughta just say so.