• BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      I pirated this meme in the highest quality I could but lemmy compresses the image to 60-70% of its original quality, that’s why it’s so blurry 😅

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    {intitle:game I wanted}{infile:*torrent}

    This was how I used to format my piracy searches. 13 years later I recognize that forcing the search engine to generate direct links to the torrents instead of handing me pages I could get was probably where those viruses came from 😅

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    the most important thing to have when pirating is common sense

    the second most important thing to have is a vpn

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      the most important this to have when pirating is common sense

      We disagree actually, it’s to have well written tutorials and not to rely on the idea that people can just know things from nothing.

      We get the frustration in this meme but honestly, we never liked this kind of attitude in tech spaces, it’s exclusionary, gatekeepy and harms people. We understand not wanting to answer every single question but some well written tutorials etc to link to are better than having everyone starting in ignorance and getting in trouble or being harmed for it.

      Especially if said tutorials keep up to date and add more answers to people’s questions over time.

      After all, being helpful actually helps the pirate community in that more people seed, so helping others is actually win-win. There’s really no downsides whereas expecting others to know everything or being rude stops this from happening and thus is a loss for all of us.

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        Tutorials can’t cover everything. Once you encounter something completely new, you need common sense to extrapolate from your existing knowledge (which could be from a tutorial or experience, etc).

        In the end, whether we’re talking about piracy, work or life in general… You need to be able to adapt to situations, not just read guides.

        That’s not to say well-written tutorials shouldn’t exist, but the common sense part is still more important IMO

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          Sure, but the problem is that people aren’t taught those skills necessarily. So it does help when people are willing to help out in case those skills or ability to do that or for many other reasons aren’t possible.

          We get that not everybody can or wants to, but a quick “I’m unable to help you” is fine, yet we see so mahy people being rude instead. Leave space for those who can or want to help instead 🙂

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            My client doesn’t show these things, and i’m honestly not interested enough in the matter to read someones bio to put their odd form of expression into context, even if it would show them.

            For the sake of efficient communication i would suggest adjusting either by putting that context in your comment or by expressing yourself more clearly.

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            My Lemmy client doesn’t show profiles by default and it’s a pretty popular one. Perhaps it might be wise to introduce yourselves in a sentence or 2 in the future.

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              Well, that’s a fault of the client. Really it should be working on such basic functionality, if it doesn’t have it already.

              What do you mean?

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      Still don’t know why I’d need a vpn. My country doesn’t go after individuals pirating (yet). That’s the only reason, as far as I understand, to have a vpn for pirating. So until they start to take come after individuals, I’m gonna save my money.

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        You only need a VPN in very few countries, some where it is needed to avoid getting your internet connection cutoff from your ISP are the US, Germany, Greece, and a few other countries somewhere in Europe, the rest of the world doesn’t care about people downloading movies online.

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        I think you’ve exactly described why some people need a VPN. My ISP does 3 strikes when they get complaints :/

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        Also VPN makes you rather anonymous. The sites won’t track you and sometimes the trackers on public torrent files are notorious for tracking.

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          That is not true, the sites do still track you. VPNs don’t prevent tracking, they just make sure the tracking is done through a secure tunnel.

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            VPNs don’t prevent tracking, they just make sure the tracking is done through a secure tunnel.

            The extra hop adds a significant barrier for the website in knowing the actual source IP. The fake source IP is likely used by many other users, and the user you are trying to track can easily rotate VPN IPs.

            Its one less identifier for them to use.

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              Adtech relies on the OpenRTB 2.5/2.6 spec for tracking, you would have removed 1 identifier out of a hundred (one that isn’t really used anyway given SSAI is so popular). In addition to that, cookie expiry timers are typically set to 365 days meaning you’re VPN would need to enabled at all times to not invalidate multi-hop. WebStorage API based trackers tend to be indefinite.

              ORTB spec: https://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/OpenRTB-API-Specification-Version-2-5-FINAL.pdf

              EDIT: If anyone is looking for more specifics about WHY IP addresses and multi-hop don’t matter, the spec includes a mention:

              BEST PRACTICE: Proper device IP detection in mobile is not straightforward. Typically it involves starting at the left of the x-forwarded-for header, skipping private carrier networks (e.g., 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x), and possibly scanning for known carrier IP ranges. Exchanges are urged to research and implement this feature carefully when presenting device IP values to bidders.

              The issue is that mobile is so prevalent and mobile networks rely so extensively on CG-NAT that even with XFF headers, there’s no good way to tell if you are going to get an IP address that actually matters. You could potentially put in a lot of auction time trying to figure that out and still just end up with a private address that’s unusable. So, aside from the devicetype and the geo object which is used for geo targets and fencing, the device object isn’t useful in tracking. Instead adtech uses the user object. This object should contain all your GDPR specifics, any EIDs, 1st party cookie IDs, etc. Even if those change, there usually exists backend mapping that allows for vendors to correlate different user IDs as being the same user ultimately.

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                …specifics about WHY IP addresses and multi-hop don’t matter.

                …you would have removed 1 identifier…

                So it can matter.

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                  So it can matter.

                  Remember to read the rest of that sentence:

                  1 identifier out of a hundred (one that isn’t really used anyway given SSAI is so popular).

                  So, no. Not really.

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    This seems like a meme about piracy for script kiddies. These issues don’t really exist for anyone who knows what they’re doing.

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    A serious question: what’s wrong with pirate bay? I have been using it to download movies, shows and language learning content for over a decade, and I never had any problems.

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      Those aren’t typically risky media. When you’re downloading games though, you’re downloading executable programs. You can do some serious damage if you execute the wrong things. You’re not executing a mkv or a pdf, you’re only reading it.

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        You’re not executing a mkv or a pdf

        You’re half wrong and half right, .mkv files are completely safe but the same can’t be said about .pdf files, attackers can embed malicious code, such as JavaScript or hidden executables, within a PDF file.

        People really underestimate the capabilities of this .pdf file format. I remember some time ago, someone managed to run doom inside a .pdf file.

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          Theoretically, there could also be a MKV file that exploits a bug in the video player to get execution.

          Far less likely, but definitely possible.

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            There’s a difference between exploiting bugs that haven’t even been found and spreading malware through a method that’s known by pretty much everyone and is still used to spread malware today.

            It’s also theoretically possible that your system is already infected by some Advanced Persistent Threats but does that happen that often, No, and have people been infected by running random pdfs they found online, Yes.

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      Nothing is wrong with it. I imagine you’d be the type to survive in the wild west because you’re equipped to do so while people around you die of dysentery.

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      Don’t download games and software from it and always check the file extensions and make sure they’re not something like Movie.mp4.exe or Movie.mkv.exe, other than that you’re good.

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          Also watch out for any link files, .com files and .bat files.

          I think you meant .lnk files instead of link files.

          .scr and .uue are also becoming popular means to spread malware through torrents.

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    This was me basically before I started to learn how to do shit properly.

    Ie. when I was a teenager and learnt about pirating through low quality youtube vids

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    I don’t understand folks that pirate games. I don’t think there’s a particular service issue currently between all the platforms and sales.

    If I’m boycotting a publisher/studio, I just don’t play their games. If I find them too expensive, I just don’t buy it and won’t play it. And if it’s not worth buying it at full price, I’ll just might buy it on sale later.

    Movies and TV shows on the other hand… There’s definitely a service issue there.

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        As in abandonware? Or delisted due to cultists? Either way, the answer is yes.

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      Good for you. You do you. I’ll keep pirating all the games I can, and if they are from a respected developer (fuck you Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard, etc.) AND I like the game, then I’ll certainly buy it.

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        We don’t disagree. Our approach is just different. Neither of us are throwing much money at these companies.

        Just the other day I’ve bought the FO4 GOTY edition for (checks email) C$13.37 (lol), which included all DLCs, and I thought it was a fair price for the quality of the game and content it provides. With the 30% cut that steam takes, I hope Bobby or Todd or whoever is in charge now is happy.

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      I don’t understand folks that pirate games. I don’t think there’s a particular service issue currently between all the platforms and sales

      Capcom puts invasive DRM on all of their games now, and retroactively added it after people bought said games. All of the Borderlands games had spyware retroactively added over the past yeat spyware. And Ubisoft can’t be trusted to not take away games from people who paid for them.

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        Right. But again, that’s on the individual for buying it for loads of cash upon release. The writing was on the wall for all these shitty AAA producing companies for years, yet the preorder FOMO train never stopped.

        I agree about piracy/cracks for stuff that you already bought, but the publisher broke it in some way. But these are the exception, not the norm.

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      I’m a Linux user and the games I play are usually not supported, so troubleshooting time often exceeds the two hour return window. This is nearly a non-issue these days though.

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        I’m a Linux user as well (arch btw) and I just look at protondb and https://areweanticheatyet.com/ as a reference. If something comes up as less than stellar, I’ll just skip purchasing it.

        Longest I had to tinker with were Project Zomboid (due to ancient gfx before I bought a new one) and Jedi Fallen Order (just to fine tune for performance/fidelity, took about 15 minutes).

        I understand if you regularly go for games that require a lot of tinkering you might need more time though, but the Steam return is 2hrs of played time, not 2hrs of owning the game.

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      We used to had demo version of games, often made with care. Now we have 2h play on Steam while we can refund, instead.

      Devs* learned to make first 2h nice and intense and to scream it’s awesome and the wow effect, and everything later super bland and repetitive. Nice 2h long game may be worthy 8€. 2h long fun and 200h boring fuck is not worthy 80€ the devs request.

      As devs I point some devs and often publishers who own dev studio and makes orders too.

      I don’t trust the bitches.

      If I find whole game fun and worthy the price, can pay even 80€, can put it on the wishlist to buy on promo later, or in extreme cases, even buy few copies for friends includes pricy dlc. IF I find it worthy as whole.

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        It’s not free. The associated cost is searching for an appropriate release, potentially eliminating any issues with it and then still risking becoming part of the botnet.

        In contrast, buying games on deep sale is pennies and it just works.

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            I didn’t say all games. I’m a patient gamer. I buy when they go on sale, years later. Unless it’s a really well received indie game. I try to pay full price for those.

            Steam (and I assume other platforms as well) change prices depending on region. So what may seem unaffordable in Canadian Dollars, is likely well priced in Hungarian Forint or Czech Korunas.