• AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
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    4 days ago

    Given that they gave it to Kissinger in the 70s, and then gave it to Obama before he actually did anything just for not being George W. Bush, the precedent would be that Nobels may be dispensed wherever politically expedient.

    • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 days ago

      Kissinger is easily the worst example to give the Peace Prize to. I think Anthony Bourdain wrote about Laos( correct me if I am wrong about the country) that you will wish to beat Kissinger with your bare hands after you have visited the place and see what he had done.

      Satire died the day Kissinger was awarded the Peace Prize. Someone said famously as well. Even if Trump gets it, I will still argue that Kissinger remains the gold standard for being bad.

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          That has a lot more to do with the degree of adoption of drones by the military than anything else. They were bleeding-edge technology in Bush’s time.

          Anyway, the whole Obama/drone thing is nothing but lazy repetition of meaningless talking points.

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          3 days ago

          That’s one isolated metric. This is probably better than sending an army.

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            3 days ago

            It’s a dumb metric as well, seeing as warfare evolves and modern drones were mostly untested before Bush 2.0.

            Bush did the beta testing, it worked. Obama continued their use. It’s like saying more people used iPhones in 2015 than in 2008.

          • Magnum, P.I.@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            3 days ago

            How is that better. You do realize this is very sophisticated bombing. Would you rather have a guy run into your house or the house of your family or some super sonic mach 3 drone? What kind of contest is that anyway.

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              3 days ago

              I’d rather have neither. I’m just saying some isolated metric doesn’t give the full picture.

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                3 days ago

                That’s one isolated metric. This is probably better than sending an army.

                Sounds like you were saying getting drone striked is probably better, but English is not my native language so you are probably right

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                  2 days ago

                  You’ll end up pink mist either way, but a drone strike can be targeted more precisely, so it’s likely to cause far fewer innocent casualties.

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                    2 days ago

                    A drone strike more precisely targeted than a guy going in? OK interesting. Probably the reason civilian casualties are so low

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                  3 days ago

                  If I had a gun to my head and was forced to choose whether a ground/army invasion is better than the drone strike, I would choose the latter.

                  However, I’d prefer neither happen.