• Gorilladrums@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I am very skeptical of any article that boldly claims that China is on the rise and the US is in decline. We’ve been hearing about this decades. People underestimate just how corrupt, dysfunctional, and incompetent the Chinese system is under the CCP. People think the US is worse only because the US is an open country. China’s isolation give it the illusion that it’s better, but in reality, it’s even worse. Every major Chinese achievement from their mass transit system to their big corporations to their economic growth to them pulling ahead technologically to so many more, all come with big asterisks attached that make them much more questionable.

    • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      Brother it sounds like you underestimate what industrializing the largest population on earth looks like. It’s not just happening, it’s kinda inevitable.

    • exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de
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      51 minutes ago

      The big difference that I see is that they investes in people for a long while now. They did what they can so people can get a decent education. That’s also the reason why they don’t allow kids to use tiktok and so on - it’s hindering the next generation’s ability to think. They know that you need many intelligent people to drive whatever other innovation you want to have later. That’s why they’re pulling ahead so fast while we are collapsing. I am not even living in the US, but even here the education system is crumbling.

      The west has trapped itself in the thought of technology without people. The idea that few clever people can design perfect systems that drive everything for us. That we just need to support those few individuals to get maximum return. China is supporting the broad masses. It’s like creating a fertile soil.

      Who knows what all the asterisks are causing in the future. But at the moment it’s just no comparison. We’ve gone backwards, while they’re so far ahead we barely see them.

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      4 hours ago

      China leads the world in scientific publication, even when only taking into account reputable journals and high-impact publications. There’s no doubt in my mind the US will decline further with the current attacks on science and education, and anti-intellectualism in general.

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      5 hours ago

      Chinese infrastructure and manufacturing lead is real. You don’t need to believe any propaganda, just travel and observe.

      The asterisks are not about their usecase but political.

    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
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      5 hours ago

      The US is very much on the decline, and thanks to the poorly thought out One Child policy- China has also likely past it’s apex. But like the US, it too can cause a lot of damage during its downfall.

      India, thanks to burgeoning population and rapid industrialisation is probably the most notable nation currently ‘on the rise’.

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      6 hours ago

      It’s also coming from “AI Experts”, so who cares what they have to say. The real question is, what’s their angle by saying this?

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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      5 hours ago

      Every major Chinese achievement from their mass transit system to their big corporations to their economic growth to them pulling ahead technologically to so many more

      I see.