• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Might be bad now but it leads to a better future. Infinite growth was always impossible, this is just the result of decades of mismanagement.

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      14 hours ago

      The future for S. Korea looks bleak, not better.

      I agree that infinite growth was always impossible, but in some countries birth rate is well below replacement rate (if they matched, population would be stable, not growing), and in many birth rate + immigration rate is also below replacement rate – we are failing not at growth, but “mere” stability.

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        12 hours ago

        Idgaf about replacement rate. I don’t want the old to be replaced. I want the economy to get smaller and for the wealth to be better distributed.

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          7 hours ago

          Smaller economy is fine, I guess – tho deflation has certainly caused problems in the past. Better distributed wealth is a shared goal. Depopulation, and other forms of Degrowth, are largely driven by eugenicist ideas and are neither necessary nor desirable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW8vkUY93i8

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            6 hours ago

            You might notice I never once promoted any such depopulation ideas, simply that the natural negative growth trend as a result of highly educated populations is a good thing that we should not take any action against.

            We need less people, we don’t need to make the number of people less: it happens on its own.

            If it were possible to make a nondiscrimatory policy against growth then that would be great, but we already saw attempts fail in places like China which resulted in skewed demographics. In 1994 in Cairo the UN met and decided the best answer was simply: Educate Women.

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              6 hours ago

              We need less people

              No we don’t. And, S. Korea in particular will need more people than they have available, soon.

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                4 hours ago

                They don’t NEED more people, nowhere on earth NEEDS more people, as long as you have as few as 12 genetically distinct individuals then life will continue, and even if they did NEED people then theres lots of people all over the world who would love to migrate to SK.