The streaming star on how to reject political violence while staying honest about Kirk’s rhetoric.

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    23 hours ago

    A vile person person who has concrete terrible impact is better than one who simply make bank from the genocide if that’s even true?

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      22 hours ago

      What a bizarre take away. Are you confusing recognition of effectiveness as praise? If I say Hitler was successful in the project of e terminating millions of Jews do you take that as praise of Hitler?

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        22 hours ago

        In your context yes. It’s like saying at least Hitler was able to create effective propaganda so have a certain degree of German support was able to gather as opposed to rich journalist during the holocaust that he know a lot but may not now all the detail of the Nazi ideology but still made money while doing the noble act of calling out Nazism.

        You used to words at least kirk that mean you think kirk is better than Hassan . Even if we suppose that Hassan do everything for money and has no impact at least he talk about noble things while kirk was successful as spreading his cancer supremacist and racist ideology that has concrete harm on people

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          22 hours ago

          Then that’s bad wording on my part and I should work to express myself in clearer terms. At the same time, it’s OK for me to express my desire for the leading media personalities on the left to be more effective and informed. We aren’t winning this by streaming and reading Twitter headlines. Sorry.

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            21 hours ago

            it’s OK for me to express my desire for the leading media personalities on the left to be more effective and informed

            Nothing wrong with that just don’t dismiss all he does just because he could be ignorant of certain things. Or use fallacies line him being wealthy

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              19 hours ago

              I get what you are saying. I’m sure he does some good things once in a while. I’m of the opinion he causes more harm than good and that he doesn’t particularly care about much besides lining his pocket. Just because he does an interview or a charity drive once in a while means jack all to me. He’s been in the media sphere for over ten years. Besides farming his audience for clout, what else has he accomplished?

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                19 hours ago

                You are contradicting yourself you say that he is not influential and then talk about how he is doing harm.

                I’m of the opinion he causes more harm than good and that he doesn’t particularly care about much besides lining his pocket.

                Not good to make assumptions, especially when the Zionist lobby is pretty strong and already tried to cancel him multiple time

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                  18 hours ago

                  Listen. I’m going to bookmark this comment. In one year I’ll follow up and you can let me know what exactly Hasan has achieved for the left or Gaza or anything really in the next 365 days. I know what the media apparatus on the right has already accomplished.

                  Good luck and talk soon.

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                    17 hours ago

                    I am not naive to think a simple streamer can end the genocide it’s so ridiculous but the idea that is harming the cause is baseless. Countries with economic and military power are the only thing that would stop the genocide if they are willing to which are not since we keep voting for the same pro Israel politicians and pro israel political parties