In my view, there’s nothing wrong with idea of people having the option to end their life with dignity. For example, if you have terminal cancer and you’re suffering then you may not wish to prolong the suffering. The issue in the context of Canada is that this is a coercive measure due to lack of social support systems. This was a famous case of a person who did not wish to die, but thought it would be preferable to becoming homeless. And I think this whole case is great example of just how deeply immoral capitalism is.
Same here. I believe that since no one can consent to being born, it makes sense that people are allowed to go out on their own terms, and I think in a socialist society, euthanasia should be enshrined in law. I think it’s selfish to force someone to live just because you would be sad if they died.
But I of course don’t want that to be a popular option, and I think a combination of therapy, medication, changing material conditions, interventions by loved ones, and every other accommodation should be made to dissuade people from taking their own life, and of course people who have dependents should have a responsibility to take care of them or have someone else take over their role from them before they off themselves.
I’d also argue that in a socialist and full communist society, the suicide rate would be almost zero anyway.
My grandfather took the option a while back when nit was pretty new and the eugenics angle hadn’t become entangled. He was dying of COPD and chose to cut things off on his own terms surrounded by family instead of letting himself degrade for maybe years and putting my grandmother through all that. That was the situation this was advertised as when it was under debate for legislation and then a couple years later, really a very short period of time all of this awful shit that was not at all part of the deal suddenly came with it.
What is odd is just how fast that rug got pulled out. I’m friends with a few people in medical jobs and they all encouraged to sign petitions to make right to die legal and all thatand the terms NEVER EVER had anything close to cases outside the already terminal. I think there was an assumption of medical ethics.
Oh it gets worse, they’ve tried to open it up to those suffering from mental illness/depression and I believe they’re planning on re-introducing it in 2024.
As someone who struggles with depression, this is terrifying. Just the thought of seeking out help from a medical professional and their response being “have you considered killing yourself?” really discourages me from having an open, honest conversation with my healthcare provider.
This, plus the covid denial, it’s becoming more and more evident that a classicide is going on.
But that leads me to ask, what will the rich do when they get their “no poors” utopia? If everyone alive is wealthy, then are they truly wealthy? Hell, who will make them their treats?
That’s where immigration policy and mass incarceration comes in. Shove them aside, strip them of their rights, and outsource as much labor as you can. But keep some as an undercaste since you can’t actually get rid of all of them.
It was originally made for people who were fatally sick, there were laws that let them die, but the problem was that they effectively had no teeth because anyone could come up with any reason (usually going against the patient’s wishes) not to go through with it. The government threw their hands up and said “fuck it, if you want to die, you can die” which has naturally lead to people offing themselves to get out of debt.
Their solution to this problem is to push for mental health resources and build more rental properties; obviously it hasn’t been doing jack shit because they’re liberal bandaid “”“solutions”“” that aren’t even in the right direction of the fundamental societal rot at the core of it all.
Still can’t believe that medical/state-assisted suicide is an actual thing over there, what is going on in Maple Leaf Land?
In my view, there’s nothing wrong with idea of people having the option to end their life with dignity. For example, if you have terminal cancer and you’re suffering then you may not wish to prolong the suffering. The issue in the context of Canada is that this is a coercive measure due to lack of social support systems. This was a famous case of a person who did not wish to die, but thought it would be preferable to becoming homeless. And I think this whole case is great example of just how deeply immoral capitalism is.
Oh, damn, when capitalism gone so shit that death is preferable at this point. Bro, that’s sad as hell.
Death is a preferable alternative to capitalism
-modded Liberty Prime from fallout 4
It’s not even an alternative, it’s in the package.
If only it was martyrdom instead of eugenics.
Same here. I believe that since no one can consent to being born, it makes sense that people are allowed to go out on their own terms, and I think in a socialist society, euthanasia should be enshrined in law. I think it’s selfish to force someone to live just because you would be sad if they died.
But I of course don’t want that to be a popular option, and I think a combination of therapy, medication, changing material conditions, interventions by loved ones, and every other accommodation should be made to dissuade people from taking their own life, and of course people who have dependents should have a responsibility to take care of them or have someone else take over their role from them before they off themselves.
I’d also argue that in a socialist and full communist society, the suicide rate would be almost zero anyway.
My grandfather took the option a while back when nit was pretty new and the eugenics angle hadn’t become entangled. He was dying of COPD and chose to cut things off on his own terms surrounded by family instead of letting himself degrade for maybe years and putting my grandmother through all that. That was the situation this was advertised as when it was under debate for legislation and then a couple years later, really a very short period of time all of this awful shit that was not at all part of the deal suddenly came with it.
Exactly, there are absolutely legitimate cases like that, but thanks to capitalism the whole thing has become a vehicle for low key eugenics.
What is odd is just how fast that rug got pulled out. I’m friends with a few people in medical jobs and they all encouraged to sign petitions to make right to die legal and all thatand the terms NEVER EVER had anything close to cases outside the already terminal. I think there was an assumption of medical ethics.
indeed
dam you got bombed for this
lol yeah
Oh it gets worse, they’ve tried to open it up to those suffering from mental illness/depression and I believe they’re planning on re-introducing it in 2024.
As someone who struggles with depression, this is terrifying. Just the thought of seeking out help from a medical professional and their response being “have you considered killing yourself?” really discourages me from having an open, honest conversation with my healthcare provider.
That’s a horrifying thought.
But wait, there’s more! There’s also been a push to open it up to “mature minors” who make other decisions related to their medical care. There’s reasons I’ve been calling this a modern take on the Aktion T4 program. It’s only a matter of time before they start the open “involuntarily euthanasia” (murder) of the mentally ill, physically disabled, homeless, and any other “undesirables”. All under the guise of humanitarian compassion.
US federal funding for sterilizations enters the chat
This, plus the covid denial, it’s becoming more and more evident that a classicide is going on.
But that leads me to ask, what will the rich do when they get their “no poors” utopia? If everyone alive is wealthy, then are they truly wealthy? Hell, who will make them their treats?
That’s where immigration policy and mass incarceration comes in. Shove them aside, strip them of their rights, and outsource as much labor as you can. But keep some as an undercaste since you can’t actually get rid of all of them.
It was originally made for people who were fatally sick, there were laws that let them die, but the problem was that they effectively had no teeth because anyone could come up with any reason (usually going against the patient’s wishes) not to go through with it. The government threw their hands up and said “fuck it, if you want to die, you can die” which has naturally lead to people offing themselves to get out of debt.
Their solution to this problem is to push for mental health resources and build more rental properties; obviously it hasn’t been doing jack shit because they’re liberal bandaid “”“solutions”“” that aren’t even in the right direction of the fundamental societal rot at the core of it all.