• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      15 hours ago

      No you’re redrawing lines. It’s the new “walkaway” movement getting ready for the next election. You’re going to poison the votes.

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        Dude do you even know what liberal means?

        Liberalism is an ideology founded in a few core principles. Capitalism and the right to own property, the power of the government originating from the masses rather than god, and inalienable rights for its citizens.

        You guys are the ones redefining old words cause you don’t like the idea of not being considered leftist anymore. The overton window has shifted since the 1700s, yall are centrists now.

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          Liberal policies aren’t just a singular thing. Because of these groups astro turfing they’re getting the usual gang of idiots to say there is only one group and that is the one that shares a few center right policies.

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                  I believe .ml is just another form of it with “liberals are right politically”

                  The purpose of .ml is to create views and opinions alternate and divide the left. It’s a toxic place with more support than should be warranted by it’s values.

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            We aren’t saying there aren’t different kinds of liberals, what we are trying to tell you is that liberalism is not a left wing ideology anymore. It is centrist and anti-communist. Yes you have left leaning liberals and right leaning. But that still only makes yall center-left and center-right.

            Leftists issues with liberals is because liberals, no matter what are pro-capitalist and anti-communist. Communists are anti-property and liberals are pro-property. Yes a leftist has more in common with a left leaning liberal than they do a right leaning liberal, but that does not make their interests aligned. Historically anytime liberals and communists team up, communists get backstabbed. And more often than not, it never even gets to teaming up. Historically, liberals are the ones to team up with authoritarians to crush communists.

            And I’m an anarchist. I trust Marxist communists just about as much as I do liberals. That is to say not much. And I have more interests aligned with a Marxist than I do a liberal

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              Economically liberalism can be right of center but socially they are left. It’s complicated way more than just “they’re right”