• njm1314@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Wealth concentration is the point of capitalism. Exploiting labor so those at the top can become wealthier is the design.

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      21 hours ago

      Wealth concentration is the result of unregulated capitalism.

      The point of capitalism is the freedom to make whatever you want in however much amount because people demonstably can’t otherwise competently work together for 5 minutes to figure out how everything should be done to provide for everyone. Everytime somebody has tried to get rid of it, it ended with pointless death and suffering, and often led to autocracy.

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        21 hours ago

        Capitalism has nothing to do with freedom to make whatever you want. I don’t know who told you that but it is absolutely 1,000% not true. Capitalism is those with the most Capital controlling the means of production. That’s it that’s literally it. You can see how that inherently leads to exploitation.

        By the way capitalism is supposed to be unregulated. We have to regulate it because it’s such a abysmally broken and self-destructive system. So saying wealth concentration is the result of unregulated capitalism is just admitting that capitalism results in wealth concentration. Your first sentence there basically concedes your argument. Regulation by the way which is inherently self-defeating because it can’t fix the very essence of the problem.

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          20 hours ago

          Merriam Webster Dictionary:

          capitalism
          noun

          an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

          You’re arguing with the dictionary.

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        21 hours ago

        Damn, I wonder why that’d keep happening. It’s almost like there is some fundamental element in a capitalist system that makes reform impossible. Fuck eh, what do you do to resolve the inherent brutalities of such a system? If only there was some way to identify those fundamental elements through like, the work of thinking about it really deeply with other people who want to end that system. That sucks though because obviously people are just bad and we should just keep doing this because the political compass memes told me that history is super simple actually.

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          20 hours ago

          Empower democracy > the democratic government hold people accountable and redistributes wealth to provide a minimum standard of living for all > problem solved permanently.

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            Empower democracy > the Democratic government hold people accountable and redistribute wealth > get fucking couped by the USA like Salvador Allende, Gaddafi or Mosaddeq, or literally bombed until millions of your citizens die like in Vietnam.

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              At least you had the balls to drop the flimsy venier that this was about means of production and admit it’s a fucking East V. West Tankie Propoganda.

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            20 hours ago

            Oh of course, we just gotta empower democracy and everything will be fine. Why didn’t anyone else ever think of that? How did you access such remarkable knowledge?

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              20 hours ago

              Because a large enough number of people have been convinced not to try it, fucking it up for the rest of us.