What a strange reading list, it’s almost like you never took the time to learn about this at all and have only shaped your worldview on the information that’s fed to you. What are the odds that someone who doesn’t think critically about the historical narratives they’re given would develop a worldview that just so happens to benefit the power hierarchy they already exist in? (The UK being neoliberal only while Thatcher was around is hilarious btw)
Everyone knows that liberals will side with fascists, but you don’t know why that happens so you just accept answers that have the right vibes. Your narrative naturalizes human tendencies toward authoritarianism, a liberal and fascist narrative that is contradictory to what we have learned about indigenous peoples all over the world that were subject to European colonialism and its accompanying system of knowledge (Check out Kathleen DuVall’s Native Nations for North American context). Liberals and fascists do not differ on the fundamental principle that society should be stratified along the lines of socially and politically constructed groups imagined to be fundamentally different from privileged groups – such as how racism emerged to facilitate slavery – which they use to justify the violent extraction of wealth from colonized land. Liberals and fascists purport to differ on the basis of individualism, but the fascist claim to exceptional community in the form of national identity is fanciful when positioned in the broader history of colonialism where their concepts of human society and history uncritically drew from.
Liberals respond to challenge through violent oppression first and assimilation second when that inevitably fails. They appropriate concepts like progress and equality to disarm social justice movements and position their efforts securely within the legal frameworks of the state through civil rights assurances. Conversely, fascist rhetoric depends on narratives that construct liberal states as weak for their inability to more effectively carry out the genocide of groups that they commonly understand to be inferior to the privileged groups they’re a part of. Liberalism’s tendency to slowly wear down dissent with marginal concessions frustrates the fascist who is critical of their tactics, not the specific fundamental violence that liberalism depends on.
Now, in the face of neoliberalisms penetration into daily life and the gradual erosion of middle-class material security globally as avenues for growth diminish, why would fascist rhetoric emerge in North America and Europe today? Why are they talking about “population control” as cause of climate change when it is so obviously stratified access to resources? Your explanation would assume that it is just the human tendency to be awful, but the reality is that is what the system you are subject to has taught you specifically to make you less capable of criticizing it. Humans are not naturally awful, it is this system that is violent and that is more than what the government looks like, it is how you imagine the world around you.
You’re lucky I had to wait for a meeting, y’all don’t normally get a free lesson.
I never said anything about human nature, you just assumed that from my 10 lines of comment. That’s a lot of words to just say that we basically agree ? You’re just being weirdly condescending about it. Also, the UK is still a neo liberal country, I never claimed the opposite. It just started earlier than others, maybe I didn’t convert that thought in my comment.
Thanks for the lesson, that was interesting, but you should definitely keep the condescending tone down.
You thought you knew how the world worked without even checking under the rug and I’m excessive for being condescending about it. Check your arrogance and learn something if you want serious people to take you seriously.
What a strange reading list, it’s almost like you never took the time to learn about this at all and have only shaped your worldview on the information that’s fed to you. What are the odds that someone who doesn’t think critically about the historical narratives they’re given would develop a worldview that just so happens to benefit the power hierarchy they already exist in? (The UK being neoliberal only while Thatcher was around is hilarious btw)
Everyone knows that liberals will side with fascists, but you don’t know why that happens so you just accept answers that have the right vibes. Your narrative naturalizes human tendencies toward authoritarianism, a liberal and fascist narrative that is contradictory to what we have learned about indigenous peoples all over the world that were subject to European colonialism and its accompanying system of knowledge (Check out Kathleen DuVall’s Native Nations for North American context). Liberals and fascists do not differ on the fundamental principle that society should be stratified along the lines of socially and politically constructed groups imagined to be fundamentally different from privileged groups – such as how racism emerged to facilitate slavery – which they use to justify the violent extraction of wealth from colonized land. Liberals and fascists purport to differ on the basis of individualism, but the fascist claim to exceptional community in the form of national identity is fanciful when positioned in the broader history of colonialism where their concepts of human society and history uncritically drew from.
Liberals respond to challenge through violent oppression first and assimilation second when that inevitably fails. They appropriate concepts like progress and equality to disarm social justice movements and position their efforts securely within the legal frameworks of the state through civil rights assurances. Conversely, fascist rhetoric depends on narratives that construct liberal states as weak for their inability to more effectively carry out the genocide of groups that they commonly understand to be inferior to the privileged groups they’re a part of. Liberalism’s tendency to slowly wear down dissent with marginal concessions frustrates the fascist who is critical of their tactics, not the specific fundamental violence that liberalism depends on.
Now, in the face of neoliberalisms penetration into daily life and the gradual erosion of middle-class material security globally as avenues for growth diminish, why would fascist rhetoric emerge in North America and Europe today? Why are they talking about “population control” as cause of climate change when it is so obviously stratified access to resources? Your explanation would assume that it is just the human tendency to be awful, but the reality is that is what the system you are subject to has taught you specifically to make you less capable of criticizing it. Humans are not naturally awful, it is this system that is violent and that is more than what the government looks like, it is how you imagine the world around you.
You’re lucky I had to wait for a meeting, y’all don’t normally get a free lesson.
I never said anything about human nature, you just assumed that from my 10 lines of comment. That’s a lot of words to just say that we basically agree ? You’re just being weirdly condescending about it. Also, the UK is still a neo liberal country, I never claimed the opposite. It just started earlier than others, maybe I didn’t convert that thought in my comment.
Thanks for the lesson, that was interesting, but you should definitely keep the condescending tone down.
You thought you knew how the world worked without even checking under the rug and I’m excessive for being condescending about it. Check your arrogance and learn something if you want serious people to take you seriously.
Won’t be responding again.