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    It’s almost like all of the big gigantic companies are in cahoots with one another and then one day…BOOM!..they bought all the governments.

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    Wasn’t Google trying to get their own OS off the ground? It’s in their business interest for people to switch from Windows to elsewhere.

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      It’s not in their interest for people to switch to something actually good that they will want to stay on, though.

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      Fuschia, I think it was called. Their own Linux like OS, but with all their own custom tools

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        Fuschia did get used on some of their smart home stuff that they’ve shifted focus away from. I suspect they were just building a dedicated embedded OS to standardize on for non-phone gadgets that don’t need full fat android

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    Why does Google even care? They should make Microsoft file takedown notices for each of these installs while at the same time promoting Linux after all their own OS runs on Linux (I know it’s a piece of junk that can’t compare to a typewriter but still)

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    I know it’s a normal thing, to not instantly look for alternatives to software you might have used for your entire life, and I get it, if it hasn’t harmed you or done you wrong, then it’s probably fine to stick with what you know.

    But as someone who first experienced alternatives to Windows back in 2006, and like others who walked the more beaten path, we’ve grown tired of this stuff. The slow, decline of Windows, and the promise of something better with every update.

    It won’t surprise me if one day they decide to full send it and charge a monthly subscription to use the full OS, not one bit. Enshittification, it’s bound to happen. I’m teaching my child about linux now, so they’ll be aware that software doesn’t have to suck.

    Try something different, it’s a good way to live, to know you don’t have to remain where you are if you don’t want to. Of course, only if you want to!

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      Thank you. Yep. Can you just go ahead and leave your pamphlets and boot DVD by the door and we’ll read them. We’re eating dinner right now.

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      Right. A long winded response ignoring the subject of google censorship.

      -1

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        You can’t share a recipe for pizza sauce on lemmy without someone shouting about Linux. It’s just part of life here. Best to accept it.

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        It seemed somewhat topical to me. Google’s censorship is the same trend of enshittification that Yar is talking about.

        There are tons of other comments talking about the censorship issue. Using this moment to plug open source software is not unreasonable.

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    The noose keeps tightening.

    Google also has been trying to argue that modifying client side javascript is equivalent to hacking.

    Modifying code running on your own fucking machine, in your own fucking browser.

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      They just can’t admit that they’re using ai for the server side scripting, seeing how it doesn’t work out.

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    Download the ISO from MS, make bootable USB with Rufus. After clicking Start you can choose local account only, bypass TPM and RAM reqs, etc

    • Fin

    E I guess not fin. Massgrave

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      rufus can download the latest 10 or 11 iso direct from ms servers (incorporating the fido ps1 script, made by the same guy), so you only need rufus and a flash drive.

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      I recently set up quite a few friends and family with Windows 10 IoT Enterprise licenses thanks to MassG. Told them if they don’t get updates past next Tuesday to let me know.

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        Come on! It’s fun! And pretty frustrating at times. You’ll hate it. And then love it. Then hate. It’s called emotional balance and it makes character, or some shit, I dunno.

        Just get the penguin already.

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          Once I updated to OpenSUSE 15 everything was working so well it got boring, because there was no fixes or no tweaks needed, I had to start some other projects to keep me occupied.

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          It has progressed a lot lately, IMO. If I don’t wander away and try to do some weird stuff and just use it as a classic os, well for me I haven’t had a single issue for a very long time.

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        That indeed is a huge problem. Whenever I try peertube, I get zero search results and I don’t know whether it is because there are so few videos or because the indexing is so badly done or because people do not provide metadata with their uploads…

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    For those who care, at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10.

    CMD will open.

    Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.

    Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter.

    Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter.

    Next type “net user Prefferedusername /expires:never” and press enter.

    Next type “net user administrator /active:no” and press enter.

    Next type “net user defaultUser0 /delete” (this is case sensitive make sure the “U” is capitalized) and press enter.

    Next type “regedit” and press enter.

    This opens registry editor, navigate to “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE”

    Delete “DefaultAccountAction”, “DefaultAccountSAMName”, and “DefaultAccountSID”

    Right click on “LaunchUserOOBE” and rename it to “SkipMachineOOBE” and make sure the value is set to “1”.

    Close registry editor and type “shutdown /r /t 0”

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      I thought they started blocking that work around.

      Also +1 for describing things like the quotes and preferred username.

      We had a guy doing remote file copy on a Unix system. Hr was given a sample like:

      Scp john@server2:/data/incoming/filename.prt /home/john/files

      He tried 5 times then complained to IT that the system couldn’t find the file to transfer.

      IT realized he wasn’t replacing filename with his filename he just assumed the server new which file he wanted by typing filename. Lol.

      Had a user given instructions to delete log data in C:/users/myusername/logs

      User replies to IT: my system does not have a folder called “myusername”

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        Unless they remove local accounts all together or disable shift F10 in the OOBE this should work, it just sets up a local account through command prompt in a similar manner that lusrmrg.msc would.

        That said I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if they remove local accounts altogether next.

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          I think that was part of a Windows 11 update, but I’d have to find the article

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      i’ve run across a couple prebuilts where shift-f10 didn’t work at any screen of the oobe. those just got clean installs via rufus.

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        No, they aren’t. The only people I ever here say that are angry linux fanboys complaining that people won’t use their preferred distro. This guide is for the people who want to do such a thing. If you don’t want to then don’t no one cares. Use Bazzite or Mint if you think linux is too hard.

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      I’ve been doing this in command prompt:

      reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

      shutdown/r /t 0

      After reboot it lets you choose “I don’t have internet” and you can continue with creating a local account.

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          If they did it would make all the bullshit I typed earlier entirely pointless, and honestly I hope its true because having to do all of the just to get a local account is ridiculous.

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      Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add”

      Using backticks instead of quotation marks is the ideal way to document technical instructions like this here:

      Type net user Prefferedusername /add (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.Next type

      net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add and press enter.

      Type `net user Prefferedusername /add` (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.Next type
      
      `net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add` and press enter.
      
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      Windows users: “I don’t want to swap to Linux, you have to follow arcane instructions from the Internet and use the terminal to do basic tasks”

      Also Windows users: “Now here is how you add a local user:”

      at the first setup screen instead of answering any of the questions press Shift + F10.

      CMD will open.

      Type (no quotes) “net user Prefferedusername /add” (replacing Prefferedusername with the user name you wish to use) and press enter.

      Next type “net localgroup administrators Prefferedusername /add” and press enter.

      Next type “net user Prefferedusername /active:yes” and press enter.

      Next type “net user Prefferedusername /expires:never” and press enter.

      Next type “net user administrator /active:no” and press enter.

      Next type “net user defaultUser0 /delete” (this is case sensitive make sure the “U” is capitalized) and press enter.

      Next type “regedit” and press enter.

      This opens registry editor, navigate to “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE”

      Delete “DefaultAccountAction”, “DefaultAccountSAMName”, and “DefaultAccountSID”

      Right click on “LaunchUserOOBE” and rename it to “SkipMachineOOBE” and make sure the value is set to “1”.

      Close registry editor and type “shutdown /r /t 0”

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      I am usually not that guy, but honestly, why not just install Linux Mint at this point

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        I cannot find this meme I know I have seen

        Panel 1: “Installing Windows 20 years ago” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons
        Panel 2: “Installing Linux 20 years ago” screenshot of a busy command line
        Panel 3: “Installing Windows today” screenshot of a busy command line
        Panel 4: “Installing Linux today” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons

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        Because some people still require windows for what ever reason and also it’s fun to resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.

        Personally I switched to Bazzite for my gaming rigs and Mint for everything else, but I wont judge anyone who wants to stay on windows despite the hostility microsoft has for its user base and I say more power to them.

        Those who stand defiant in the face of overwhelming odds are exactly the sort of folk I like.

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          I don’t judge, I just don’t understand. At this level, you need way more skills to keep your Windows account local than installing Linux with their GUI wizard. I understand some people need Windows professionally for Photoshop, but I guess the large majority doesn’t. If you read this Windows user, now is the time. Trust me, you will experience a level of freedom and performance you would have never thought of.

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            Hey I’m with you, at this point it seems like a losing battle to stay secure on windows and it will only get worse. But some people will want to keep using it for whatever reason. As long as I have the ability to assist them I will, freedom of choice is important even when the choice is a bad one.

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          Heard good things about Bazzite, how does it work out with .exe game files off the internet etc?

          Ive got a boat load of games that aren’t on steam/are from GOG or itch and run as their own files instead of being run off a service

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            I haven’t had any issues with any of the the games I play. For example recently I’ve been playing Driver San Francisco and all I had to do was tell my system to run it using proton and it plays, no weird configurations or workarounds needed. I have even had some games that were so buggy on windows they would randomly crash that ran like they were native on linux. RAGE for instance always gave weird memory errors on windows but on Bazzite it just worked. I am fairly anti social though so I don’t play any online games so I can’t vouch for those. I’ve heard older multiplayer games seem to work fine with a few work-arounds. If you look up guides on how to get things running on the Steam Deck they usually work for getting things running on Bazzite as well.

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          resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.

          Resist corporate bullshit by eschewing the free, non-corporate option – which, because it’s open, gets better the more people use it – in favor of continuing to use the exact same corporate product but with an abstruse, hacky workaround that 0.001% of the userbase will use and will probably be plugged by this time next week. That’ll show those corpo fucks who’s boss. ✊Ⓐ”

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          How is continuing to use their product (thus being farmed for telemetry and other revenues) defiant in any way?

          The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run. Your defiance is futile and you’re the only one suffering, not Microsoft.

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              Can you run Battlefield 6?

              This isn’t even a Windows or Linux thing: Why the hell do you want Saudi Arabia and Jared Kusher* to have kernel-level access to your machine? Why, why is that worth it for just a game?

              *I really wish I was joking with this part

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              The last time I try to run valorant on non standard windows 11 install, the anticheat refused to run. I’m not playing valorant, just helping friend with tehnical issue.

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                Ok, cool. Some people are. This is a quick list of some popular reasons why people might not be able to just run Linux.

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                  I’d probably play BF6 and I do enjoy Apex Legends, but not enough to run Windows. Photoshop is great, but GIMP meets my non-professional needs. I’m not an engineer so AutoCAD isn’t a professional requirement and I can fix 3d prints or plan landscaping in freecad.

                  But, I can’t make Micrsoft stop enabling telemetry on my computer, inserting ads in my start menu or giving AI access to my entire system. I know there are tools to disable these things, I used them. I know the workaround to make local users, I know how to remove the AI integrations, I know how to use group policy to prevent the re-enabling of some items.

                  I don’t want to have to fight my computer in order to use it. I want it to do exactly what I want and nothing else. Linux lets me do it and that is more important than a few FPSs

                  Everyone gets to make that choice. Well, except the people who can’t upgrade to Windows 11… for them it’s Linux or joining a botnet at some time in the near future.

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            I get it but let me give you an example of the sort of thing Linux is dealing with:

            I have a nephew who wanted a PC, and had a small budget (they where 11 at the time and I was not going to let them pay) so I used some parts around and made a not so bad mint machine. It worked very well but can not play fortnight (not an issue with mint or the hardware) or other such anti-cheat games. The child was ok with it but his parents got mad at me as to why I would not just “be normal” and put a real operating system on the machine. They tried to tell my nephew that he should not use his PC until they can bring it to someone that can “fix” it by putting windows on it (they are kinda asshats). Lucky for my nephew the place they took the PC said the same thing I did and that it would not run as well with windows on it, but would do it if they wanted (they said no when they got the cost).

            So the PC gets used and is enjoyed (it was the nephews birthday present from me), and used by his father as much as him. But all this time I am getting constant complaints about the “weird stuff” I forced on them, and that one day they will get him a “real” computer. Keep in mind my brother has a PC that is running windows that has more bloat and malware then you would think possible at this time (I think why he kept using his son’s) that was about the same in hardware (1060, am4 3600ish, 8 gigs of ram sort of machines). The mint PC was clearly better, and when their child started to point out how much more time my brother spent on his Linux computer then his own my brother just happened to “spill” a whole glass of water directly into his son’s computer. Then he hid the PC away and just blamed it not working on the “bad software” that it was running, and how it was a “trash” machine anyway. (I did get it back eventually, replaced the board and shipped it back to my nephew who is now using it again).

            So the point of the story is this, would you if you had to deal with users (and lets assume you are not related to them) like this put Linux on their machines or just not want to deal with them and put a ripped and custom windows on it?

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              Oof. Those parents are horrible. At least you tried to do the right think for the little dude.

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                Unfortunately they are not uncommon, adults that are more childish then their children at times. I try to help but there is only so much I can do.

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              There are no upcoming kernel patches that will fix the problem of people being ungrateful assholes.

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                I mean there is bound to be one that bricks their machine, so I have that at least.

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                  The trick is to always install their system using btrfs-dkms.

                  It’s guaranteed to break in a way that Google cannot resolve.

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              I cannot relate in any way. I would tell these people to figure it out themselves and that they’re ignorant and ungrateful. You’re also a very nice person for putting up with that.

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                Its often the worst part of working in the industry, I used to have to deal with these sort of people professionally (investment bankers are the worst). I am just pointing out that sometimes the solution is just to do the work and move on, and that is how we get to where we are.

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              If that story is at all true, I feel so bad for that kid regarding so much more than the OS on his computer. I honestly hope you have thought about the potential future circumstance that you need to take on an abused teenager.

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                Oh I do what I can, but those kids (3 of them) are not going to have a good time.

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                We are not american, and no he is (or was at one point) a card carrying communist (a really really bad one).

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            The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run.

            Well I’m glad you represent everybody.

            People who need to use software like the Adobe suite professionally? They should just abandon their whole career and not use Adobe. Because being unemployed will really show em.

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              Every time this topic comes up, you’d think that all Windows users are all professional graphic designers who use AutoCAD and also play Valorant professionally.

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                Ok but what if someone breaks into my house and is holding a shotgun to my wife’s head and is telling me to run windows. What then huh? Linux people think everything is so easy.

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      That’s a lot of instructions just to use the computer you paid for and is yours…

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        Linux has its stupid bullshit too, its just 12 of one and a dozen of another sort of situation. For example I don’t have to jump through hoops to auto mount a secondary drive on windows I just install the drive and there it is. But on linux I have to jump through all sorts of ridiculous hoops for some stupid reason. However it will auto mount flash drives and sd cards even though those are the ones more likely to pose a security risk.

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          What are you running? Mine just shows up, I double click it and supply the encryption password and it’s mounted. (Which could be skipped if it wasn’t encrypted)

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            So many people do not understand the “auto” part of auto mount, clicking on it first is not auto mount. Auto mount means its mounted on boot not after you click on it.

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              You can set it to do that. Same as you do in windows when you assign a drive letter, it then will automount that drive. You can do that in Linux in the disks tool

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          I just plugged in an old drive to make sure I’m not going crazy, and I didn’t do anything besides hit the power button, log in, and open the file explorer:

          And its right there.

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            It depends on the DE.

            Even still, typing mount /dev/sda1 external isn’t exactly Cirque du Soleil

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              @the_riviera_kid @drosophila

              As always on Linux you have different possibilities. Most big Desktop Environment’s like KDE / GNOME / Cinnamon … can mount devices automatically or on a click on the device. No need for additional entries in fstab.

              If you however want a more general approach you can use systemd’s automount or a fixed mountpount using fstab.

              Most normal Desktop User’s will be totally fine with the DE Solutions.

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                I use my secondary and tertiary drives for steam and I boot my machine to big picture mode on startup so I need them to auto mount. Having to navigate to the file manager and clicking on them is not the same.

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                  So on windows a drive will not automount the first time, you have to assign a drive letter, which it then remembers. If you skip this its just a drive in the device manager with no mount.

                  You can accomplish the same in Linux so the drive automounts on boot with a nofail option so that if it is disconnected from the PC the boot moves on rather than waiting on the drive to become available. But otherwise thr DE will let you mount it instantly.

                  This is a non problem. Linux has issues but drive mounting is not one of them.

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                  I thought you were talking about just opening the drive to use it from the file browser.

                  I do actually have a drive I use for automated backups, but I just used the GUI to change the automount setting:

                  I guess that’s a little bit inconvenient, but its like 3 clicks, adding a step to something I had to do to set up some other software. Its not any more complicated than disabling sticky keys in Windows.

                  Except we’re not comparing it to disabling sticky keys, we’re comparing it to needing needing to follow an entire page’s worth of instructions, pressing secret key combinations and entering commands into the terminal, just so you can use your computer without it phoning home to the mothership. And that’s on top of the fact that the instructions are probably going to be different in a year since microsoft is deliberately fucking with you.

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          Say what? That’s not true in the slightest, if the drive is mountable it will show up in your file manager.

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              This article is more for a headless server. Any DE is going to present disks to you. And if some odd quirky drive doesn’t, you go into the disks app and click the play icon on the drive you want to mount

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                I’ll say it again “auto mount” if you have to click on it first it’s not “auto” thats “access” mount.

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              I think people are confused because the difference between mount on access and mount on boot is meaningless for 98% of people. I can think of reasons to need the latter, but not many.

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                You are probably right, most folks aren’t even aware because they have no need for it. The only reason I need it is for my gaming rig that launches big picture mode on startup. I have no need for it on any of my desktop machines.

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          Yeah, but again you don’t have to do all this stuff just to use the PC. And for having the tiny user base Linux does it’s amazingly pro-user compared to the monopolistic bullshittery that is Microsoft Windows.

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      Next type “ net user Prefferedusername/active:yes” and press enter.

      A space is needed before the slash on this command, right? And no space before net.

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        I don’t know if this is the case, but I’ve found that often Windows commands see the space as optional. It’s weird, but generally works.

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          In this case the space before net won’t matter but it does make it more consistent. The space before the “/” however will matter.

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      Honestly in my opinion just pirate windows ltsc/iot ltsc/server ltsc editions

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      Intructions unclear.

      Invalid command: net rap user Prefferedusername
      Usage:
      net rap user add             Add specified user
      net rap user info            List domain groups of specified user
      net rap user delete          Remove specified user
      
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        Why are they removing hacking videos? Have they always done that? IT help videos are the cornerstone of why YouTube has any redeeming value these days. I know, I know, I shouldn’t use it, but sometimes it is the only place that has the info you need.