The Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. On Thursday, they told their caucus colleagues they had ten votes to reopen the government—in exchange for no real Republican concessions.
How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
In what way am I entitled? In what way am I gloating?
I understand the stakes, and I hate what the country has become. It is disgusting that republicans are using people who rely on SNAP and healthcare subsidies as pawns to advance this stupid agenda that’s making life worse for the majority of the country.
Instead of hurling insults at someone analyzing the situation, maybe you could educate yourself on political game theory. Perhaps then you’ll understand where I’m coming from in referring to politics as a game.
maybe you could educate yourself on political game theory
says the person who thinks it’s a good thing the democrats just traded promises of absolutely nothing for everything the republicans wanted. you’re celebrating that the democrats just condemned ~50,000 people to death every year because they won’t be able to afford health insurance as a genius political move in some grand game you’ve made up in your head. you’re pretty fucking disgusting, dude.
Did you miss the part where all of this was said before they caved, and the proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to reopen the government? Which would give dems what they asked for while forcing the debate during midterms?
first of all, you’re not on the same side as me, liberal. you’re slightly left of republicans, and still right of center. nobody who is celebrating poor people dying gets to say they’re on the same side as me.
second, you didn’t point out shit. you’re argument was so unbelievably stupid that literally nobody has agreed with you. you’re getting downvoted because you have a grade school understanding of politics and think you’re far more clever than you actually are, and naturally you’re the only person who thinks that. the reason I’m responding to you with memes is because I’m quite sure you aren’t capable of grasping anything more substantial. I’m half tempted to use grunts when speaking to you, as I’m sure with your neanderthal level of intelligence, it would be more comfortable to hear your native tongue. you don’t have the capability to upset me. the only emotion you’ll ever provoke out of me is sympathy for how hard I imagine it is to tie your shoes.
First and foremost, I’m very liberal. I’ve also pointed out in this thread and other other comments on this post that I am firmly against the pause on SNAP benefits, among other things.
The original proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to agree to the budget. I’ve pointed out, in this thread and others, why that’s a good idea - it reopens the government, which means government employees will finally be paid, it gets SNAP funds moving again, and it extends the healthcare subsidies which can be a talking point to motivate voters in the next election (which would then hopefully mean laws would be passed to ensure affordable healthcare to everyone). Again, all of this was based on that proposal, and before dems caved to the budget as it stands.
Think about this for a moment - by having the government shut down, and not compromising on anything, more people will go hungry and die and more people fall below the poverty line. That is what your position enables - the exact opposite of what you’re saying you stand for.
Would it be great if the republicans caved first? Absolutely, without a doubt. But, with the number of congresspeople under trumps thumb, and with the strategies being suggested (like ending the filibuster), that was unlikely.
Instead of considering all of that, you’ve made all sorts of assumptions about me, and did your best to insult me.
I’m sorry you’re frustrated with the state of the world right now. I am too, along with millions of others. We might not agree on a path forward, but at least we can agree that none of what’s happening is okay and that things need to change
It’s neither - I’m just pointing out how the game is played
There is no more game. Either we destroy every part of Project 2025, and we imprison all the people involved. And that means 90% of the MAGApublicans.
This ain’t a fucking game, you entitled twatwaffle. People are dying while you gloat over old white men playing politics.
In what way am I entitled? In what way am I gloating?
I understand the stakes, and I hate what the country has become. It is disgusting that republicans are using people who rely on SNAP and healthcare subsidies as pawns to advance this stupid agenda that’s making life worse for the majority of the country.
Instead of hurling insults at someone analyzing the situation, maybe you could educate yourself on political game theory. Perhaps then you’ll understand where I’m coming from in referring to politics as a game.
says the person who thinks it’s a good thing the democrats just traded promises of absolutely nothing for everything the republicans wanted. you’re celebrating that the democrats just condemned ~50,000 people to death every year because they won’t be able to afford health insurance as a genius political move in some grand game you’ve made up in your head. you’re pretty fucking disgusting, dude.
Did you miss the part where all of this was said before they caved, and the proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to reopen the government? Which would give dems what they asked for while forcing the debate during midterms?
Maybe this will help you understand
Sorry, did me pointing out how you’re getting mad at someone on the same side as you for analyzing the situation upset you?
Maybe take your own advice, twatwaffle
first of all, you’re not on the same side as me, liberal. you’re slightly left of republicans, and still right of center. nobody who is celebrating poor people dying gets to say they’re on the same side as me.
second, you didn’t point out shit. you’re argument was so unbelievably stupid that literally nobody has agreed with you. you’re getting downvoted because you have a grade school understanding of politics and think you’re far more clever than you actually are, and naturally you’re the only person who thinks that. the reason I’m responding to you with memes is because I’m quite sure you aren’t capable of grasping anything more substantial. I’m half tempted to use grunts when speaking to you, as I’m sure with your neanderthal level of intelligence, it would be more comfortable to hear your native tongue. you don’t have the capability to upset me. the only emotion you’ll ever provoke out of me is sympathy for how hard I imagine it is to tie your shoes.
First and foremost, I’m very liberal. I’ve also pointed out in this thread and other other comments on this post that I am firmly against the pause on SNAP benefits, among other things.
The original proposal was to extend healthcare subsidies for a year as a compromise to agree to the budget. I’ve pointed out, in this thread and others, why that’s a good idea - it reopens the government, which means government employees will finally be paid, it gets SNAP funds moving again, and it extends the healthcare subsidies which can be a talking point to motivate voters in the next election (which would then hopefully mean laws would be passed to ensure affordable healthcare to everyone). Again, all of this was based on that proposal, and before dems caved to the budget as it stands.
Think about this for a moment - by having the government shut down, and not compromising on anything, more people will go hungry and die and more people fall below the poverty line. That is what your position enables - the exact opposite of what you’re saying you stand for.
Would it be great if the republicans caved first? Absolutely, without a doubt. But, with the number of congresspeople under trumps thumb, and with the strategies being suggested (like ending the filibuster), that was unlikely.
Instead of considering all of that, you’ve made all sorts of assumptions about me, and did your best to insult me.
I’m sorry you’re frustrated with the state of the world right now. I am too, along with millions of others. We might not agree on a path forward, but at least we can agree that none of what’s happening is okay and that things need to change
it isnt a game, when its one side that holds all the cards, pushing an unfavorable legislation isnt going to help dems get re-elected in the house.