Correct me if I’m wrong, but all this switch does is make adds relevant/not relevant to you. It doesn’t stop whatever data is needed to make it work, does it?
Nor does it cut into the corporate revenues. They get paid for the ads either way. The odds of you clicking an ad (presumably) go down, though, so the click-through revenue the company would hypothetically get if you clicked on ads will be theoretically diminished assuming you believe the big tech companies aren’t lying about that data to their advertisers as well.
Still better than being spied on. Irrelevant ads are an improvement.
The commenter you replied to seems to be suggesting that the spying still happens
Just spam us based on the actual content being experienced, advertisers, gosh!
Worked just about forever! (Well for however long the web had ads pre-personalization)
When you have an android phone you should also turn it off.
Windows has it as well.
Is this bait? Because I’m taking it.
Linux doesn’t have it because doesn’t have ads.
Not bait, but fair point.
Is this an OS level thing or a per-app issue on Android?
My system blocks adverts to such a degree I don’t know what this looks like!
It’s in global Google settings. Under “all services” > “ads”.
You shouldn’t turn it off because Apple makes millions of $$$ from it; you should turn it off because personal data collection is just bad
I’d say both, don’t make the rich richer
don’t make the rich richer
But my stock gains! This feature adds fractions of a cent to each share. Where’s your sacrifice for
themygreatermediocregoodwealth extraction?especially when the rich have no hesitations to comply and cooperate with fascist regimes
And when said corporation’s CEO gives the fascist dictator a golden trophy on live TV.
Context?
Gives me a 403 error.
Found the info through the url. Gosh that’s fucked up. Gold Apple trophy for the Nazi leader. Smh
Does turning it off stop the data collection, or just stop them from using it to show you targeted ads?
I ask myself “do the consequences of them doing something bad, outweigh the money they make by doing it anyways?”. Individuals might have, and follow, moral principles. Large companies do not.
Class action lawsuits can be a good motivator.
You may want to add instructions on how to find the setting.
EDIT:
You need to go to:
Settings -> Privacy & Security -> (scroll down) -> Apple Advertising
Thank you! The following negativity isn’t directed at you in any way, because this is very helpful (for now).
But something that annoys me about apple is they like, move settings around constantly and change the names of settings. So if you’re having some issue, guides like this with specific detailed instructions end up outdated and lead to dead ends, and not even the search function helps. Almost every issue I have I end up having to look up a second guide on how to find the modern location for whatever toggle I need lol
Not to dismiss this because it’s real but at least for this specific instance search for the title of that view, “Apple advertising” goes right to the setting.
My main complaint with settings are the things found only in setting but searching settings does not surface them.
This happens a lot with family and iCloud+. Passwords was broken out of settings recently and it’s well past time for iCloud and family settings to come out too. Especially family settings which aren’t really device settings so why do they cram them in with my device’s settings when I can’t even consistently access them with setting’s search.
Not sure what you mean? Search works today to find the setting that was screenshotted today, of this there can be no doubt, but I’m talking about two years from now when they rename it to “Unified Marketing” and relocate the setting to “Continuity”
Android does this too. And every iteration of reorganizing is still bad. In android 4, it was hard to find anything, and it still is. The search function does help but it’s not nearly as smart as it should be.
My favorite is when you know what setting you want an you try searching it and the app acts like you don’t know wtf you’re talking about
They also change their undocumented Settings deeplinks
Undocumented… (rude!)
You should see it on Android where not only does every version move everything around, but every manufacturer seems to re-implement the entire settings screen as well.
YSK: Android has a similar option, but it is not enforced, so individual Android apps can completely ignore this and still track you.
And this is part of why I root.
Only certain apps get network access, and only certain apps get to use Google services.
They’ll complain, some won’t work.
Next phone won’t have Google services at all, and untrustworthy apps will be sandboxed in their own profiles.
I know it’s ironic, but buy a Pixel for your next phone(1) and use GrapheneOS. It sandboxes all of the Google stuff so it can’t track you across the device, only within the sandboxed app or service itself. Chances are all of your financial apps will still work (mine did including Paypal, the pickiest by far) and the only downside I experienced was less than ideal keyboard error correction and complicated voice-to-text setup (required a third party voice recog service since Google’s didn’t exist in GrapheneOS).
(1) Don’t buy it new, get one from Swappa or the equivalent trusted used phone marketplace in your country.
One of the first things that gets turned off.
Ad tracking of any kind.
AI of any kind.
Notifications for almost everything.
Any other metrics or telemetry that can be disabled without impacting functionality.
Absolutely, notifications are so annoying. Phone and texts are all I want to make a sound. Everything else can wait for me to interact
Supposedly the new Samsung “OneUI 8” upgrade tries to streamline notifications and make them less annoying or attention grabbing. I just upgraded so I’m curious what it’ll be like but according to articles the entire goal of version 8 was to make the device less noisy to the user in general.
I have notifications for when there is an Aurora Borealis outside, but that seldom happens…
Yes, everyone should do everything they can to avoid seeing advertisements. No one is immune, and advertising is very effective. That’s how Trump ended up as President twice. Yes, that was advertising, all of it.
It’s hard for them to show me ads when I barely look at my phone. It’s hard for them to show me ads through uBlock. I go most days without seeing an intrusive ad. I only see ads on the rare occasion I do online shopping. I do that the same way I shop IRL, as quickly as possible.
It was a bit more involved than “advertisements”. It was a targeted psyop. Cfr Cambridge Analytica.
ALL advertising is a targeted psyop. It’s literally trying to get you to do something you wouldn’t otherwise do.
Funny. Because apple says they respect my data security and privacy first and foremost and as we all know, lying in advertisements isn’t a thing.
Everyone says Apple cares about privacy. Why is this even there?
If they cared less you wouldn’t even get the option
Google and Facebook do the same thing, doesn’t make them any more privacy friendly.
Google and Facebook don’t enforce these kinds of setting onto their internal apps
When you tell iOS to not share info with applications it actually doesn’t share that info with applications. Facebook sued Apple over this.
Look, I don’t worship Apple but it’s just wrong to say they aren’t wayyy more protective of privacy than almost everyone else
Edit; violating apples privacy rules subjected Facebook to legal liability (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2022/09/22/facebook-keeps-giving-users-more-reasons-to-delete-their-accounts/)
Fb sues Apple for letting users choose not to share information at the system level (https://business-law-review.law.miami.edu/battle-tech-giants-apple-facebook-clash-consumer-data-privacy/)
Apple may block third party from accessing your info, but they won’t block themselves from doing the exact same thing Google does.
Apple collects information sure but it’s nowhere near as much as Google does and this is verifiable.
None of these companies are good but Apple is by far the least bad when it comes to respecting your privacy
Not true. They’re required by law.
Incorrect
GDPR Article 7:
Art. 7(3): Users must be able to withdraw consent at any time, and it must be as easy to withdraw as to give → This is why an opt-out must exist.
There are 2 reasons a big corporation will ever do anything:
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Make number go up
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Avoid number going down due to bad PR, government fines, etc.
This probably falls under #2.
Apple does sell privacy. They market it as a feature.
And their hardware sales margins are hilarious.
So in this case they do have some incentive for privacy/security.
They do even better - they sell the idea of privacy. Then they’re free to double dip.
Or triple dip if selling in a place like China.
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The cool thing is that you can turn it off
Allegedly.
this isn’t an android. When you turn something off on an iPhone, it turns off.
I don’t agree with this. While they have stated its against their stores policies to use permanent identifiers instead of your IDFA, I haven’t seen any stories of them actually enforcing said restriction. I’ve seen a lot of /them/ saying that they will and do, but I’ve never seen a story of a company saying they were disabled for it.
On top of that, they didn’t forbid companies from using workarounds like a unique device fingerprint using your current device configuration for it either, so many apps just did that instead, which brought everyone back to square one again, they just switched to using a third party to identify the device instead of using apple’s first party solution.
Privacy advocates actually warned that apples way of marketing this feature would do exactly what is occurring here. Giving users a false sense of privacy when really very little has changed.
I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. Best wishes.
Most settings on iphone only turn off the capability for you, not apple. Wifi is a good example. There is litereally no way to turn the radio off, and the settting merely prevents your use of Wifi while Apple still continues to use it in the background (for Find My mesh and location traction among others).
I don’t know who told you this insane bullshit, but not a word of it is true.
I’m sorry to hear about your imagined misery
Lol yes because the trillion dollar corporation known as apple got there by being honest 🤣
If you have any evidence that could prove me wrong, you would have provided it already.
“MONEY=BAD” is a hilarious argument when you are arguing in favor of Google
Delusions
Hmm I didn’t consider that I needed to list [every corporate action for the past 200 years]. Good point though. Next time.
Any word to do. No need to list all of them.
That’s how I know you’re full of shit: you couldn’t even provide a single one
How you know I’m full of shit is that your brain is set to “apple good” with no other priorities in the mix. What people like you don’t realize is that I could literally not care less what you believe. The responses I leave here are for non-zombies reading the thread.
It literally says you will see an equal amount of ads, just not personalized.
Yeah, and the obvious benefit is that they aren’t harvesting my personal data to fuck me in the ass with ads.
You have chosen the “fuck me in the ass with ads” option. as someone who loves getting fucked in the ass, I tip my hat to you.
And you hallucinate that that somehow makes you better than me? Or that it’s the better choice?
I am not beholden to your hallucinations. I can actually make better choices for myself. I urge you to do the same.
Apple may harvest my personal data, but they never sell it. The worst with that that will ever happen. Is they use my personal data to sell me an iCloud subscription.
Those who make android? Their entire business structure relies on them selling your personal data. Which, of course, they can easily harvest from their custom operating system.
Damn, did someone shit in your lightning connector?
Google also doesn’t sell your data, they just sell ad space. Just like Apple. The only thing different is that you believe Apple’s marketing.
The only one here with a superiority complex is you.
And for your information, I use a custom ROM with everything of Google stripped out and every ad blocked on the kernel level. Try that with your ad-infested data-harvesting iphone.
This is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day
In this case, perhaps. The problem is it’s what Apple offers, or nothing.
…I really, really miss my jailbroken iPhone. Honestly I would trade for a (working) iPhone 6 without even blinking.
I’m sorry to hear that an iPhone was somehow too difficult for you to use.
Best wishes ❤️
They just said they wish they could have an iPhone, and that it was jailbroken. Implying a power user who knows what they want (an iPhone) and how to use it. And this response wouldn’t have been appropriate for almost any context, but in this one it’s particularly nonsensical.
That is not what they said
If you have to lie in order to make your point, then you have lost the argument already
If you have to lie
Yeah, ok. Last I checked, telling someone they didn’t read correctly wasn’t an argument. And you didn’t read correctly. At all. Or maybe it’s you who is lying? That would be explained by this comment being pure projection.
Thanks. I appreciate the condescending comment.
You get what you give
They gave more than condescention. Interesting that’s all you read… Apple fanbois are almost as bad as Disney Adults… Ya’ll sycophantic morons.
Really? What happens if you turn off wifi or bluetooth? Last I checked, they will turn back on after some time. (But haven’t had an iphone in some time now)
How would you know? Do you have an iPhone? Are you just a lying poser?
Once again, I’m sorry that an iPhone has proven too difficult for you to use. You have my regards.
Turning off Wi-Fi or turning on, Bluetooth has an option to turn it off permanently or turn it off for 24 hours. Once again, it’s an iPhone is too difficult for you to figure out, you have my condolences.
We get it, you’re paid by Apple.
Or, I hope someone sucking corporate cock like you do is getting paid at least,.
I’m going to save this comment as an excellent example of someone who is a “fanatic”. Someone who believes that the only way someone could disagree with them is if they were paid to do that.
The irony is lost on you.
Guess you’re just a free corporate hoe after all. I feel sorry for you. Not even getting paid to lick those boots clean.
I’m sorry to hear of your troubles. Best wishes.
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I wish there was a way to turn off that Klarna advert in Apple Pay.
Every time you pay there is a ‘Other cards and pay later options’ button. You use it to change to a different card, but when you do there’s an option to sign up for Klarna.
Apple should do better than be promoting shitty BNPL services.
Their hardware would be too expensive without this subsidizing it.
Their hardware is too expensive even with this subsidizing it
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Like, turn off the iPad or iPhone?
Agreed.
