• RalfWausE@blackneon.net
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    4 hours ago

    First: It’s funny, because it is happening to Russians

    Second: It’s fucking scary, because it can happen everywhere. Fuck cars that rely on digital services.

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      This is why I own a ‘79. I could’ve gotten something way newer, but it was a great price for a reliable machine and it’s in great condition. Easy to work on if need be and I can’t be stopped from driving it. Wish I would’ve thought about the lack of airbags, but what’s a drive without a little(lot of) danger?

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    first they disabled Russian porsches and I didn’t care because I am not a russian owner of a porsche.

    then they came for Ukrainian tractors and I didn’t care because I am not an Ukrainian owner of a tractor.

    then step by step everything was digitally locked and I owned nothing and I was not really happy.

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    4 hours ago

    Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) — a security module designed to prevent theft but now shutting down cars unexpectedly.

    Also, what a strangely written article.

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      Owners welcomed theft deterrent like that. OnStar is probably the main original US service, found in GM cars. I think Subaru picked them up at some point, but basically all new cars have the option to have manufacturer tracking and app-based vehicle connections for remote start, tracking, service alerts, diagnostic uploads, etc

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        But who steals a Porsche? 1 in 4 Lexus SUVs are stolen because where they end up in eastern europe and Africa, people want reliable vehicles. Top two stolen vehicles by far are Civics and Accords for that reason. No one steals Land Rovers.

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    5 hours ago

    […] and what owners can do next.

    Sell their Porsche and buy a car that can’t be locked remotely?

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      It’s even worse than that. Porsches are locked by default, and can only be enabled remotely.

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        You can disable the modem on new Toyotas and they run fine. The dealership will bitch and moan but they can be disabled.

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            I assumed it’s not a option, so I took the suggestion to mean “physically disable” the device. Modern cars have a number of integrated computers and they rarely serve individual purposes, but there’s a good chance there’s an external antenna near/in a window. Granted, I don’t have any vehicles with cell service, so I could be wrong. I do own a drill though

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            3 hours ago

            Just wrap your car in tinfoil. Bonus is that it stops the government from reading you mind while inside.

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        There’s the upcoming Slate trucks, but those are scheduled for Q4 2026. And… also probably going to be US exclusive for a bit. Oof.

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          The Slate truck is simple for YOU. It doesn’t have lots of bells and whistles, but is still and electric vehicle that runs on computers. I haven’t heard if it has a remote connection yet, but I bet it does. Also, Jeff Bezos is an investor and I am pretty sure it is not some new altruistic streak for Amazon to launch a consumer product that they can’t monetize forever.

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            Slate will have no OTA capabilities. How they will monatize forever is by selling parts to users and educating them how to service themselves.

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          To be fair though… I came out to my old car without digital nonsense yesterday and it didn’t start either.

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    Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?

    I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It’s not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.

    Also, why don’t we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.

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      It’s the reason why no one steals Teslas. Easy to brick, impossible to charge on their system if stolen.

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      Because it was the anti theft system and immobilizer.
      It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.

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        How does it validate that you are a valid driver? Do you enter a PIN or something?

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    I doubt most owners of recent-model luxury-brand cars in Russia are average joes for which this is their only transport. I therefore find my sympathy to be somewhat limited.

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        The “O” word, actually: oligarchs (or their relatives or best buddies). Chances are that at least some of them are under sanction in more civilized countries.

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    Well, it’s because Russia is jamming GPS signal, it affects planes, cars, everything relying on GPS.

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      That’s a huge leap to assume GPS blocking was also blanketing other 2 way satellite communication frequencies.

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      None of these things need GPS to function. Even planes. A compass, a map and a clock go a long way.