• nimpnin@sopuli.xyz
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    12 hours ago

    IMO, a more opionate search would fix this. Just recommend the most active community and show the others in gray.

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        8 hours ago

        I’m not sure if the centralization is worse than the large portion of users on the large servers who joining copies of established communities on their own instances. Also, from my other reply:

        It would force you to write a more descriptive name. Maybe we want to hide by community title and not the handle though.

        Say you want to have a community for memes. It is terrible UX if you just see seven different “[email protected]” in the result. So with an opinionated search, you instead name your community Sopuli Memes, Solarpunk Memes, Programming Memes etc., or just Funny Memes Archive, and they would not be hidden.

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      12 hours ago

      That kills the less active ones and achieves the opposite of what Lemmy wants to do.

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        10 hours ago

        A lot of the “less active ones” are completely dead. Many mid-tier topics (not niche, but not “meme shitpost”) have a sea of dead communities and 1-2 active ones and it’s difficult to find them without actually clicking through the full list of results.

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          Tbh, and I plan to do this for piefed.social soon (and rimu has given me the go-ahead) - abandoned discarded communities with literally zero posts need to be purged by instances. It’s just clutter.

          If a community was active and then isn’t, that’s fine, but a lot of communities are made and then never used.

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        It would force you to write a more descriptive name. Maybe we want to hide by community title and not the handle though.

        Say you want to have a community for memes. It is terrible UX if you just see seven different “[email protected]” in the result. So with an opinionated search, you instead name your community Sopuli Memes, Solarpunk Memes, Programming Memes etc., or just Funny Memes Archive, and they would not be hidden.

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        10 hours ago

        what’s a higher priority: be usable enough to attract users from other platforms or be so decentralised you can’t tell which community to post in?

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          9 hours ago

          Communities are organised by activity on Piefed, so you can see what people are using.

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          10 hours ago

          False dichotomy. Lemmy is already usable, and the decentralization is not that high that you can’t tell where to post. But if you were posting a more proper form of the question that is not trolling, maintaining a decent level of decentralization is higher priority, as it is one of the foundationally selling attributes of the Fediverse. You can add connecting tissues and UX improvements over that, but if you abandon that you are not too different from Mozilla, and become not too different from the anti-social networks this was born to serve as an alternative to.

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            10 hours ago

            False dichotomy. Lemmy is already usable

            By whose standard?

            If Lemmy is usable why is it dying?

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              9 hours ago

              It’s slowly declining. I don’t think it has anything to do with usability, or lack of - but simply that these platforms usually get boosted by Reddit doing a scandal rather than anything else.

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                9 hours ago

                simply that these platforms usually get boosted by Reddit doing a scandal

                Then the question is, why is it when users come from reddit they don’t hang around? they don’t tell their friends, hey this is a place that’s awesome!

                Every bit of decentralised user friction is friction that centralised platforms don’t have

                I’m very happy piefed is tackling some of these bits of friction but more is needed.

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                  Then the question is, why is it when users come from reddit they don’t hang around? they don’t tell their friends, hey this is a place that’s awesome!

                  Some do. I would argue that most social media websites sign-ups become dormant accounts very quickly. Whether its Reddit, a large Discord server, a reddit alternative etc. The retainment rate of most social media sites is and has always been quite bad. People are fickle, or not as interested as they thought, or just sign up to have a better look. I don’t think there’s anything special about Lemmy or Piefed here, and advertising it isn’t exactly easy nor even welcome.

                  Does Lemmy/Piefed have the best design? No. Is it uniquely bad? Not at all. I think Reddits is pretty poor in areas, but that doesn’t seem to be an encumbrance to it.