• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    I think people are missing something pretty important here: this creates justification to use the US military against its citizens. Sure, it may just be to justify an invasion of Venezuela, but I suspect it’s more substantial than that. Saying the cartels have WMDs within the United States manufactures a threat that the military needs to fight. These “WMDs” are in every state and every city. They have manufactured a credible reason to use the military anywhere in the US against any group of people because it’s so pervasive.

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    If this is a preamble to justify a new decade of carpet-bombing a third world country again: I sort of really hope it the final straw that finally gets NATO to intervene; treating the USA as a global threat. I know it’s just a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless

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    3 hours ago

    Faithless

    “Mass Destruction”

    Whether long range weapon or suicide bomber

    Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether you’re soar away sun or BBC 1

    Misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction

    You could a Caucasian or a poor Asian

    Racism is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether inflation or globalization

    Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

    Whether Halliburton or Enron or anyone

    Greed is a weapon of mass destruction

    We need to find courage, overcome

    Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction

    That was 2004

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    Fentanyl is, if not the most common, a very common opiate used in hospitals, with virtue of being the cheapest. It’s overdose danger, is that a normal dose is of much smaller size, and then so is a fatal one. Usually GOP/CIA is pro addicts and overdoses because you need to vote GOP harder to punish them harder.

    Instead of lying for “easy to win wars so that the US/Trump can look tougher and/or perhaps cancel elections”, if opiates were a real issue, then programs including forced detox, but free voluntary detox too, A pharma incentive to make better non-addictive pain relief (aspirin/tylenol/advil), or making a deal with Taliban to produce “state opium farms” so that our hospital system (source of street fentanyl through theft) can go back to “safe opiates”… are all direct solutions to a stated problem instead of false tariffs and war excuses.

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      The entire war on drugs was created so they could make blacks and hippies felons so they couldn’t vote.

      It’s never been about the betterment of society.

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      That … would be a weapon of ass destruction, which is not technically the same thing. Also, lets not disparage those who enjoy a dick in their mouth.

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    So, can some folks here correct my ignorance. I was under the impression that most of the fentanyl entering the US is being manufactured in China. It doesn’t sound crazy to me that this is some sort of conspiracy to weaken the American public.

    I’m not sure why we can’t just decriminalize drugs so folks and do heroin in peace. Or maybe fix some of the problems that are causing people to do drugs.

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      Pain management is a profitable industry, there is an illegal black market around it, but I’m pretty sure pharmacies are still the largest supplier.

      People go to the black market after the primary market fails, like they lose their insurance.

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      The precursor is made in China, but not fentanyl itself. They sell the precursor, and, IIRC, it’s largely finished in Mexico. The precursor is nominally legal, so it’s shipped as close as it can be to be manufactured.

      It’s mostly cocaine coming through Venezuela I think. It’s not being grown there, but it is one of several shipping routes.

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      Ok but where exactly did you get that impression and what evidence have you seen to actually prove it? If we didn’t want drugs in our country it would be easy to prevent, but we’re busy using their presence as a justification for mass incarceration/slave labor and our foreign policy so it would be inconcenient for the supply to suddenly dry up. You should be extremely skeptical of anything US media says. The obvious answer to the second part is “money”

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        I think that “easy to prevent” is a gross mischaracterization. The flow of goods into this country is mammoth. Checking literally every item, while possible, would crash the economy by bringing imports to a standstill. When you compare the cost of fentanyl in the system against stopping the flow of goods, the economic impact doesn’t even come close.

        We have an incredible, historic, and unprecedented access to goods from around the globe. These items are essentially on-demand for the American consumer, and many people fear the reality that an economic crash would bring; not that everyone would die slowly in the streets, but that we would become responsible for providing for ourselves in a manner that we have forgotten how to do.

        So, in addition to checking every item, you would have to reshape the way that Americans live their lives.

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          Don’t need a 100% interception success rate to successfully suppress domestic black market drug supply, but we’re not actually trying to do that anyway

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      Hmm, attacking foreign places under the guise of weapons of mass destruction. Sounds familiar, but I can’t place it.

      /s

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      You need healthcare to handle the ramifications of the drug pandemic that comes from legalizing heroin.

      Do you have some of that healthcare because the Dotard sure as hell doesn’t. He’s too busy stealing from every pot of government money.

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      Just by asking this question, you have sent several on-duty cops to the ER with rapid heart rates and extreme agitation, well-known signs of opiate overdose.

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        And yet, when used in medicine, the drug has to be ingested or injected. We can’t just rub it on the skin.

        Hmmm

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        You think that is a feat? My mere appearance is enough to break certain people’s minds, my mere existence sends certain people into a murderous, catatonic rages. The knowledge I have is such a threat to the government that if I utter it to enough people I risk a prison sentence.

        My sibling in sin, this is only a sample of my power.

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    So America is harboring WMDs? Quick somebody assemble a coalition of the willing to liberate them.