• Steve@communick.newsEnglish
    131·
    2 days ago

    I’m not sure what the problem is.
    Does it make Archer a bad character, or Enterprise a bad show, when he breaks bad for understandable reasons?

    • Snowcano@startrek.websiteEnglish
      121·
      1 day ago

      I think the character decisions were motivated, intentionally difficult to wrestle with and especially relevant for the time it was made. I think what makes the show unforgivable for it however, is the complete lack of consequences for those transgressions.

      And before someone brings up DS9 and In the Pale Moonlight, I would point out that that entire episode was doing the work of questioning and condemning decisions just like this. It’s what ENT was missing.

      • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
        41·
        1 day ago

        You’re still judgeing the quality of the story by your morality.
        It’s common for terrible acts to go unpunished. There are lots of movies and shows where the bad guy wins. Many where you can’t even tell who the bad guy is. But they’re still good stories.

        • Snowcano@startrek.websiteEnglish
          101·
          1 day ago

          It’s common for terrible acts to go unpunished. There are lots of movies and shows where the bad guy wins. Many where you can’t even tell who the bad guy is. But they’re still good stories.

          That’s kind of my point though, the show failed to make any statement about it, including this one. In fact, what you say here would have been an exceptional statement to make, especially considering the post-9/11 backdrop of this season’s arc. Instead they were just like, “ANYWAY, time for some timetravel shenanigans” or whatever the next season was doing, I don’t recall. That absence of comment is the failure the show makes is what I’m really saying.