• lil_tank [any, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 hours ago

    Tbh most EU stans don’t have anything against the USA, they only don’t like Trump and generally because they think he’s Putin’s puppet or something

  • BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip
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    I never liked my country being a part of EU, we never even voted to join. We voted to join a trade union which later became a much bigger thing, but we never vores to join what it became, and i don’t think we would have.

    We never took the euro, but our money is just tied to it, so it is always valued about 7,5:1 which makes it basically… Euro with different artwork.

    But America is so fucked, i’ve always wanted us to disconnect more from them, and lately it seems hard to do that without strengthening EU, and starting to produce our own weapons.

    Look at me. Advocating for weapons factories… What the fuck.

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      Well, there are people here who are better versed in the state of the EU and western europe in general, but it seems to me the weapons aspect of things largely comes down to imperial interests wanting to shape the region into a weapon, not just produce weapons. Like how Ukraine was effectively hollowed out and turned into a military outpost, with its people conscripted to try to break Russia.

      They keep fear-mongering about the “threat of Russia” and as I understand it, want to cut social services in favor of military spending. This will not produce countries that can defend themselves better; it will devolve the places into barely functioning societies that depend heavily on military as industry to make it seem like it’s working at all (which is to some extent the situation the US is in already).

      What EU countries need is what all societies in history benefit from, which is to value human life and work toward peace. But as long as imperialists are running the show, any picture of peace is going to be distorted by their class interests in domination and exploitation of the world. Which includes having bogeyman threats like Russia, China, etc., that they will tell you are the monster under the bed that is coming for you.

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      What country are you talking about? The schengen area is for trade, didn’t need to join the whole union for that

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        Schengen is a recent treaty, there were european trade orgs before that grew into the EU. For example the Montanunion.

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    Euro supremicists are so funny, their entire countries are perpetually owned and cucked by the US, but they are somehow still convinced there some bastion of righteousness.

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      A lot of the rest of the world doesn’t want your Lebensraum.

      If you have been lied to about every previous war since WWII but still believe US lies against their designated enemies then you are not brainwashed, you willingly seek racist narratives. Otherwise why would one so readily amplify the propaganda of a country actively funding, arming and giving political cover against an ongoing genocide in Palestine.

      The EU is a racist hellhole. It is telling you opted for Banderite apologism. It’s well enough known that even your previous deputy secretary of state Nuland said “fuck the EU” in a conversation about installing a preferred US proxy lead in Ukraine (Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call):

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26079957

      The US are more than happy for slavs to kill each other to feed their military industry complex in an attempt to do another Afghan Trap but this time with eastern european fascists rather than salafists.

      The US has a long history of destablising the majority of the countries in this world of which Ukraine is but one example. What you are doing is looking at a long list of victims of a serial killer but saying not this particular one because the serial killer said so.

      If you’re actually interested in betraying your class interests as a Westerner on the global stage then here’s some reading material:

      • Killing Hope - Blum
      • Washington Bullets - Prashad
        • Large Bullfrog@lemmygrad.ml
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          I mean, you bring up Russia in a post that has nothing to do with Russia. But sure, keep thinking that Russia is the only possible reason someone could come to the conclusion that the EU is a hellhole.