I hear these comments for not wanting to help people, and it feels like we’re worshipping individuality to the detriment of community, which is necessary for survival.

  • “I don’t want my money going to ___ .”
  • “This is not a democracy, it’s a constitutional republic!”
  • “You don’t have any freedoms under socialism/communism.”
  • “They’re just looking for a handout because they’re lazy.”
  • “I’m a self-made man. I didn’t need anyone’s help.”
  • “Empathy is not a virtue.”
  • “I don’t see how that’s my problem.”
  • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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    I am even to the point now where I no longer believe certain people need religion anymore. They need community and a sense of belonging and religious leaders like to highjack that basic need for their own selfish interests.

    I think I agree with basically everything you’ve said here and especially this conclusion. The problem is that for many the only type of these things they can find is couched in religion. As a child-free atheist, I basically have no sense of belonging nor a community.

    In addition, some people’s only exposure to even the very concept of morality or ethics comes through religion.

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      You have a community here which is probably more real and fulfilling than going to a church service. Here we are having a discussion you would never get in a typical church. We are both thinking together, discussing, without any authority to tell us otherwise.

      Our sense of right and wrong simply don’t come from religion. It initially comes from our familial bounds but is reinforced through our many interactions with our social groups.

      You can see this in gangsters that believe in God, but also will deal drugs and shoot each other. Their morality is determined by their social group, not their belief in religion.

      As I said. I used to believe like you that religion is needed by some people, but I have begun to doubt this premise.