• muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Yeah but being a serial killer doesn’t add anything to society. Bourgeois ownership of property and the competition that creates (capitalism) put a man on the moon and given you a better life than the aristocrats the bourgeois overthrew. How many people have serial killers raised out of poverty?

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      21 hours ago

      Sorry if I’m getting whooshed, are you being sarcastic? NASA is government-run. Feudalism was even more property-based and less democratic than capitalism is.

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        17 hours ago

        U clearly have no idea how NASA actually accomplished man in the moon. Most of the rocket and infrastructure was built and designed by private companies being paid by NASA. NASA just did the integration, design, and analysis. Its the perfect example of a socialist policy taking advantage of capitalist industry.

        Capitalism, communism, socialism, and feudalism have nothing to do with democracy. They for the most part only refer to property in how its owned, who owns it, and what is property. Marx says everything that is not a person or a person labour is property owned by the state.

        This is a direct analogue to feudalism and its structure of property ownership. Under feudalism the state owns everything including you, under communism the state owns everything except you. Marx himself comments on the similarity and how that relationship can be leveraged to bring in a communist regime.

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      21 hours ago

      Ah, the Space Race. Something that was famously only participated in by capitalist countries.

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        19 hours ago

        The USSR never put a man on the moon. And what your implying here is that the USSR was communism? If so the genocides and mass starvation it caused should be enough evidence against communism.

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          11 hours ago

          I’m asserting that capitalism didn’t do that on its own. The USSR is not a good example of communism, no, but it’s certainly not capitalist, and if they hadn’t provided competition at every step of the space race, beating the US out most of the time, the US wouldn’t have gotten to the moon.

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          15 hours ago

          Oh, here we go with the “little black book of communism” bullshit.

          Gods, you guys are so predictable.

          • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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            6 hours ago

            60million dead people is bullshit hey? That’s 10x what Hitler did in the holocaust. Being predictable doesn’t change the facts that your supporting and pushing an ideology responsible for 60million dead people. That’s literally 10times as bad as supporting Nazism if we are going by human lives taken.