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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

But these organizations are for peace, trust me! -liberals

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    Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe.

    • IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
    • Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
    • Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
    • Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
    • Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
    • Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
    • Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
    • Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
    • MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
    • Matt Taibbi: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
    • Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud
    • Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty
    • Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up
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      What are you trying yo argue here, because I’m unsure? That the Russia doesn’t have propaganda in the West?

      But the links you posted does not confirm that, e.g.

      Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters

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        For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

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          So you’re argument is that Russia is bad at making propaganda, underfunds propaganda or that USA propaganda is worse?

          That’s, uh, rather weak argument.

          And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

          That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one?

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            And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans.

            That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one?

            Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house.

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              Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world

              Literally the link you posted contradicts it

              Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters

              I feel like we’re going in circles. Happy New Year!

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