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    Seems like people agree in the Mozilla thread, that they should simply follow gtk (if they change it): https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D277804

    GNOME/gtk on the other hand is apparently all for it (and immediately restricted the discussion to project members): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/merge_requests/119

    My favorite argument: Because Linux has less marketshare than Windows and OSX, more users (wo might never use Linux (or GNOME)) are not expecting the middle-mouse-paste, so it should be disabled by default…

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      So… what does a Windows user expect?
      Isn’t there just no standard behaviour at all?

      And I always had in mind that Macs only used two mouse buttons. Has that changed?

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        As an ex-windows user, I expected middle click to allow me to scroll pages up, down, left, and right just by moving my “mouse” instead of scrolling with the wheel. Not sure I’ll ever get used to using it as paste but linux evolved a shit tonne since I was using it in 2k.

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          Once you are a slightly advanced user, middle-click-paste is a pretty essential feature, as the Ctrl-v combo doesn’t work in a terminal.
          So removing that default feature might appeal a little bit to some of the newcomers, but potentially makes life harder for them in the mid- to long run.

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            Oh, I use shift-insert on command line (or right click -paste now), I did use linux back in 2k and got annoyed when the insert key was removed from some kbs. I do understand and I think it was my post higher in this thread, should be a toggle if anything, don’t piss off the old guard. I do hate change just for the sake of change, make a change that improves for everyone not just a small group

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              Agree with that!

              I never used the insert key much, as it is really missing (or hidden at some function key level) on half of the keyboards I use.

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        Idk, most Windows users expect Linux to be for hackers only and won’t switch. So, I think, we mostly have power users using Linux and they should be expecting this behaviour.

        A standard between OSes? No, I don’t think so. Even Chromium and Firefox differ slightly, according to someone in the Mozilla thread. Pressing the middle mouse button in Edge doesn’t open a Link in a new Window, you just get the weird page scroll thing.

        I don’t know about macs, never really used one. But didn’t they even try a single button mouse with a touch surface on top? (the magic mouse?)