No matter the badge, no matter the skin color, no matter the country. Forever and always ACAB
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The people that are upholding systemic oppression and arresting people for opposing genocide are bastards, sorry to tell you.
Nah I don’t agree. But a lot are. The left need to stop distancing themselves from every authority they have just because they see some videos. Look where it has got you people. You’re about ready to be rounded up into camps and no way to defend yourself. You’d think you’d at least try to make friends with some group that could protect you.
All the cops I’ve known, and I’ve known many, are the worst people you went to high school with. I know a cop that showed me a video of him kicking a handcuffed guy so hard that he shit his pants. Another cop I know used to clasp his hands around his butt when he would fart and then whirl around and smell it. ACAB.
You think the police are here to protect us? C’mon OP, here, in this thread, you’re gonna try and spread kumbayah not-all-cops-are-bad police apologia?
No. I think the police protect themselves and their interest. The left need to align the police with their interest. The fact this is missed on you is a big issue
The left need to align the police with their interest.
How do you propose they/we do that when the police have functionally been antithetical to the left’s interests across most, if not all, of recorded history? It’s not like this is an optics issue; state-sanctioned monopoly on physical violence is literally counter to the entire point of being “to the left”.
I don’t know but maybe the reason we have these cycles where we have ok societies until the authoritarians decide we got too close to a leftist society is partially because we don’t fill these roles. That we ignore it or meme ourselves to be against it leaving authority to the right which means we only maintain civil society at their discretion. There is no world where the left fights back against the police and the military and win. It will only ever be what they let you have. It’s gotta change. Even if things go back to some normalcy, as long as we refuse to fill those roles, it’ll just be the same until next time.
And it’s not police. I was military. The military is more left than people realize. When Trump fired them all, it was such a sad state to not see more people fired up. We saw this coming back then. Protests are cute. But they’re nothing without some power behind it. Without police or the military willing to defend your right then your only going to be able to do what they let you.
These people don’t want to hear about reality, they just want to complain while proposing no practical solutions, and call anyone a coward who doesn’t express uncritical willingness to immediately resort to escalation.
The moment they get a figurehead, they’ll tear him or her down, because they’re allergic to any semblance of authority. They keep talking about a revolution, but they’ll never organize effectively because they’re allergic to the ideas of discipline and hierarchy.
I believe in leftist socioeconomic policy, but man is there an over-representation of imbeciles who seem to be dominating the narrative. It’s no wonder the right-wing thinks we’re all MLs. Any leftist who’s not an ML is either afraid to speak up, or gets trashed whenever they do.
It’s fucking hopeless, I fear. And then they get upset when we say our only hope is to vote in a lukewarm Dem. I’d love to see more progressive candidates winning, but the left shoots itself in the foot every time because they’d rather have reasons to complain than actually work on solving any problems.
I don’t know what their long-term plans are. Anarchy? As if that would be any better for women and vulnerable minorities?
Holy fuck, you have no idea what a fresh breath of air you are. I’m going fucking insane. I feel like the quality of leftist in the past 10 years has dropped significantly.
They are all reactionary. They flame constantly. There’s no strategic or tactical thoughts. They’re all just reading that days headlines while arguing or yelling about their feelings.
Ok hold up, let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that the left try and make nice with cops of all people, in a post that you authored showing cops being absolutely reprehensible human beings? Like what are you even here for dude? I honestly do not understand. Why does the left need some protector anyways? Why would you advocate for that specifically, and not for the left to be their own protection?
The left need power and authority. They have nothing without it. They need to put themselves into position of authority or power instead of rejecting it. You’re not fighting a revolution without either.
Have you never considered what a left wing police force could look like? What left wing owned business class looks like. We keep failing into these cycles throughout history because we don’t change these paradigms. It’s like the left gravitate to this idea that to be left you must be poor and powerless. Instead we need to have these groups in society become more left. Much like how the right use groups like heritage foundation or neo nazis secretly put their people in these positions. The left need to wake up and put people in these positions and change the organizations over time.
I don’t think it’s that simple. If you were a good citizen you’d stop the bad ones from doing bad things. Why haven’t you? I see bad things all the time
Because it isn’t my actual JOB, that’s why. That’s their job, that they applied for, and we PAY them to do. Nobody is forcing them to be cops. How are we supposed to trust them to clean up crime in our city, when they can’t even clean it up in their own workplace?
If someone in my house was an active criminal, I WOULD do something about it, but it’s not up to me to do anything about anyone else. That’s called vigilante justice, and it’s illegal. We hire COPS to do that. Then they won’t, because it’s too dangerous.
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ACAB, no matter what badge they wear.
No matter the badge, no matter the skin color, no matter the country. Forever and always ACAB
Edit for the person who deleted their comment:
The people that are upholding systemic oppression and arresting people for opposing genocide are bastards, sorry to tell you.
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Nah I don’t agree. But a lot are. The left need to stop distancing themselves from every authority they have just because they see some videos. Look where it has got you people. You’re about ready to be rounded up into camps and no way to defend yourself. You’d think you’d at least try to make friends with some group that could protect you.
Imagine defending cops and complaining about concentration camps in the same comment. Wild.
I’m not defending cops pull your head out from your legs and you’d see that
All the cops I’ve known, and I’ve known many, are the worst people you went to high school with. I know a cop that showed me a video of him kicking a handcuffed guy so hard that he shit his pants. Another cop I know used to clasp his hands around his butt when he would fart and then whirl around and smell it. ACAB.
You think the police are here to protect us? C’mon OP, here, in this thread, you’re gonna try and spread kumbayah not-all-cops-are-bad police apologia?
No. I think the police protect themselves and their interest. The left need to align the police with their interest. The fact this is missed on you is a big issue
How do you propose they/we do that when the police have functionally been antithetical to the left’s interests across most, if not all, of recorded history? It’s not like this is an optics issue; state-sanctioned monopoly on physical violence is literally counter to the entire point of being “to the left”.
I don’t know but maybe the reason we have these cycles where we have ok societies until the authoritarians decide we got too close to a leftist society is partially because we don’t fill these roles. That we ignore it or meme ourselves to be against it leaving authority to the right which means we only maintain civil society at their discretion. There is no world where the left fights back against the police and the military and win. It will only ever be what they let you have. It’s gotta change. Even if things go back to some normalcy, as long as we refuse to fill those roles, it’ll just be the same until next time.
And it’s not police. I was military. The military is more left than people realize. When Trump fired them all, it was such a sad state to not see more people fired up. We saw this coming back then. Protests are cute. But they’re nothing without some power behind it. Without police or the military willing to defend your right then your only going to be able to do what they let you.
These people don’t want to hear about reality, they just want to complain while proposing no practical solutions, and call anyone a coward who doesn’t express uncritical willingness to immediately resort to escalation.
The moment they get a figurehead, they’ll tear him or her down, because they’re allergic to any semblance of authority. They keep talking about a revolution, but they’ll never organize effectively because they’re allergic to the ideas of discipline and hierarchy.
I believe in leftist socioeconomic policy, but man is there an over-representation of imbeciles who seem to be dominating the narrative. It’s no wonder the right-wing thinks we’re all MLs. Any leftist who’s not an ML is either afraid to speak up, or gets trashed whenever they do.
It’s fucking hopeless, I fear. And then they get upset when we say our only hope is to vote in a lukewarm Dem. I’d love to see more progressive candidates winning, but the left shoots itself in the foot every time because they’d rather have reasons to complain than actually work on solving any problems.
I don’t know what their long-term plans are. Anarchy? As if that would be any better for women and vulnerable minorities?
Holy fuck, you have no idea what a fresh breath of air you are. I’m going fucking insane. I feel like the quality of leftist in the past 10 years has dropped significantly.
They are all reactionary. They flame constantly. There’s no strategic or tactical thoughts. They’re all just reading that days headlines while arguing or yelling about their feelings.
But thank you for being sane.
The police exist to protect capital. It is impossible for the left to align with their interests
So you’re telling leftists to “align” themselves with police (the state)?
No I’m saying the left has to figure out how it will get those to align with it
Ok hold up, let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that the left try and make nice with cops of all people, in a post that you authored showing cops being absolutely reprehensible human beings? Like what are you even here for dude? I honestly do not understand. Why does the left need some protector anyways? Why would you advocate for that specifically, and not for the left to be their own protection?
The left need power and authority. They have nothing without it. They need to put themselves into position of authority or power instead of rejecting it. You’re not fighting a revolution without either.
Have you never considered what a left wing police force could look like? What left wing owned business class looks like. We keep failing into these cycles throughout history because we don’t change these paradigms. It’s like the left gravitate to this idea that to be left you must be poor and powerless. Instead we need to have these groups in society become more left. Much like how the right use groups like heritage foundation or neo nazis secretly put their people in these positions. The left need to wake up and put people in these positions and change the organizations over time.
Ok so it sounds like you are advocating for the left to be its own protection.
Remind me again why we need to be nice to police then?
So are you going to ask Republicans to protect you the entire time like now?
If you are a “good” cop, then you would do everything you could to clean up your police force, and get rid of the bad ones.
But they don’t. At best, they look the other way from abuse. That makes them complicit.
I don’t think it’s that simple. If you were a good citizen you’d stop the bad ones from doing bad things. Why haven’t you? I see bad things all the time
Because it isn’t my actual JOB, that’s why. That’s their job, that they applied for, and we PAY them to do. Nobody is forcing them to be cops. How are we supposed to trust them to clean up crime in our city, when they can’t even clean it up in their own workplace?
If someone in my house was an active criminal, I WOULD do something about it, but it’s not up to me to do anything about anyone else. That’s called vigilante justice, and it’s illegal. We hire COPS to do that. Then they won’t, because it’s too dangerous.
This sums up why the left is never winning a fucking thing anytime soon. It’s not my job
Because we expect cops to do their jobs competently? Okay…
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Hey, fuck you
This.