• HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    Actually I was referring to how tankies pretend to be communists but the moment the revolution concludes, they immediately abandon the teachings of Marx (proletariat rule, seizing the means of production for the proletariat, elimination of capitalism, etc), and instead go all in on autocracy and state-capitalism.

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      tankies pretend to be communists

      By advocating for positions that Marx held?

      the moment the revolution concludes, they immediately abandon the teachings of Marx

      Permanent revolution is the strategy of a revolutionary class pursuing its own interests independently and without compromise or alliance with opposing sections of society. As a term within Marxist theory, it was first coined by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels as early as 1850.

      I don’t think you know what you’re talking about

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        By advocating for positions that Marx held?

        No, actually, by fundamentally abandoning the positions Marx held in favor of whatever Marxist-Leninist “make it up as you go” bullshit a specific country claims to follow.

        You know, like abandoning the fight for proletariat rule, the proletariat owning the means of production, and the elimination of the system of capital. Those things core to Marx’s philosophy that every single ML country has utterly failed to do, and has actually established permenant barriers to by way of autocracy.

        Permanent revolution is the strategy of a revolutionary class pursuing its own interests independently

        Right, which didn’t happen in the USSR because they abandoned those big 3 Marxist principles, which are the fucking point of communist ideology.

        and without compromise or alliance with opposing sections of society.

        Right, like how virtually every self proclaimed communist, or Marxist-Leninist country sold their souls to their external allies, such as the USSR, China, Cuba, etc, who all abandoned Marxism in favor of Red Fascism, AKA: Marxist-Leninism AKA: Most typically autocratic state-capitalism

        As a term within Marxist theory, it was first coined by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels as early as 1850.

        And we can very easily see how the countries tankies promote as the best iteration of revolutionary societies are fundamentally not in any way compliant with Marxist ideology.

        Again, proletariat rule, the proletariat owning the means of production, and the elimination of the system of capital are the entire fucking point of Marxism.

        The systems and states tankies gush over have not only abandoned these principles, but actively repress any progress towards them by way of autocracy and state-capitalism

        I don’t think you know what you’re talking about

        Typical tankie psychological projection