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There. That’s out of the way. I recently installed Linux on my main desktop computer and work laptop, overwriting the Windows partition completely. Essentially, I deleted the primary operating system from the two computers I use the most, day in and day out, instead trusting all of my personal and work computing needs to the Open Source community. This has been a growing trend, and I hopped on the bandwagon, but for good reasons. Some of those reasons might pertain to you and convince you to finally make the jump as well. Here’s my experience.
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After dealing with these issues and trying to solve them with workarounds, I dual-booted a Linux partition for a few weeks. After a Windows update (that I didn’t choose to do) wiped that partition and, consequently, the Linux installation, I decided to go whole-hog: I deleted Windows 11 and used the entire drive for Linux.
I can confirm that the ultra-low-maintenance variant can work as well: Years ago, a dear friend of mine needed a replacement for her antique Windows laptop, to write reports for her job training as a psychotherapist. She had two jobs, no money, a little daughter, and zero time to bother with computers.
I gave her a Thinkpad X220 with Debian on it. I got zero support requests from her. That was 2016, and she is still using it.
In 2017 I bought a used laptop released 2011 and put mint cinnamon on it. About a year later my niece threw it off the table and keyboard and touchscreen broke. I shelfed it for a year before I bought a USB mouse and keyboard. Booted it up, used it a bit, updated, everything just worked. I don’t use that machine anymore since a year, as last year I bought a “new” used laptop released 2018. I recently booted the older laptop just to see and it works just fine. It hasn’t been updated in a long time.
The newer machine runs debian 12 gnome and also doesn’t get updated regularly (as I don’t have WiFi). Both machines are as fast as on the first day. I never had any stability problem with both machines (except maybe the table stability, where former laptop fell from).
That’s the cost of not using old Thinkpads ;-). They have a magnesium frame coated with rubber, everything available as spare parts, and a maintenance manual on how to change things like keyboard and display. Not fast by modern standards, but more than good enough to run Linux.
I understand your enthusiasm, as I am a Thinkpad lover myself. I’m worried that in future I won’t find a good nipple laptop anymore.
That said, before the Acer I had a Thinkpad X220, but the WiFi card kept failing. Opening it and cleaning the WiFi adapter helped, but it got worse over time.
Since I was low on budget, the Acer was a good compromize, although I hated the casing and the screen. Anf the floating keyboard, man that really sucked! The screen is slowly failing with visible darker spots. But it still works and should be okay for my kid’s occational minecraft game.
Last year I bought a refurbished overprized T480s and I’m very happy with that machine.
Durability is important for me, as I live very remote (next computer store is about half a day away) and in a small house, where things often get stacked and kids run around. That’s why I also usually go with Mint or Debian. I am rarely online, no WiFi here.
My usercase is very simple, so an old machine no problem to me. Mostly I use it for light gaming (most of the games I play are 20 years old, so no problem with onboard graphics and older hardware), doing some office stuff and occasional internet, although I mostly use my phone. And rarely a movie. But I must say, the speakers on that Thinkpad really suck. But I have a bluetooth speaker and miraculously nowadays bluetooth on linux just works. At least on the T480s.
The battery is also alright, which is kind of important as power often fails here and I like to work in my garden. I’m surprised how far linux has come with battery life. That used to be a drawback compared to Windows, but now I think Debian is better than win11 (I still have dualboot, although rarly boot into windows. Mostly only for 2 games, I didn’t get properly running on Linux).
It does become insecure, so it’s not recommended. But old Linux installations don’t stop working just bevause of age. What becomes too out-dated eventually is web browsers.
Also, hardware requirements for Linux are much lower. My own main PC is from 2009 and works like a charm with new Debian. The one before lasted about ten years, it had a Pentium II like CPU.
I know, but the older machine runs offline. If I intended to connect it online, I’d update it. The other one that I currently use is rarely online and gets updated every 2 to 4 weeks.
Same here, I installed Debian on the laptop of my nan and I got zero support requests ever since from her. Debian is so good ans stable!
Oh my, I hope she knows how to
sedthe release name in/etc/apt, or else it’s very out of date by now…Well, I was saying ultra-low maintenance, and most of the time, we both had much more important things to do (apart from navigating a pandemic). For example, going ice skating or trampoline jumping with her kid. And she is also not the type of person who likes yearly breaking UI changes. But as you remind me, I’ll get her another dist upgrade and browser update, so that online banking continues to work for her. That’s what you have friends for :-)
I had to do some math when you said pandemic and THAT WAS 6 YEARS AGO?!
Wait is this how you get up to date when your system is past long term support? Had trouble updating once and couldn’t find an answer.
Didn’t properly backup my data and lost a couple years of work doing a fresh install (school work and personal projects). Would not recommend doing backups drunk. Would recommend backing up your data regularly.
Always put /home on a separate partition.
I would not use the root password when drunk.
I started setting /home on a separate disk, and my life is so much easier since then. While I keep regular backups, it’s been infinitely easier to move to a different distro if I feel like it without worrying about losing data.
Pretty much! You just modify the apt sources, and upgrade incrementing by each stable release until you reach current stable. Each upgrade guide has a section that points you to the guide for the previous version if your version doesn’t match.
:D in my experience, there’s a certain amount of drink-inspired overconfidence that can be helpful, but it’s very easy to go over. I need more testing to find the exact line - it might also wrap around again if you drink more. More investigation needed :)