• infeeeee@lemmy.zipOP
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    Google doesn’t use osm officially. I don’t know the status of Apple, while they may use some data from osm, their map is very different

    There are big companies who use it (Microsoft, Meta, Amazon), and they donate money and manpower, they have employees actively working on osm.

    You can see organised editing activities here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities This is where they should document how they contribute data.

    Financial sponsors are listed on the webpage of the foundation: https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Corporate_Members

    About your perception of copying from osm: a lot of data on those maps are contributed by users, who may copy it from osm or may not. This problem is actually as old as mapmaking, the only way to prove they copy your map is to include “trap streets” and see if it shows up in other maps.

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      Bing at least provides their imagery as a resource you can use to update osm too. Wonder how that happened and how long it will last

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        Bing is owned by Microsoft, and Microsoft is a platinum corporate member of the foundation, it means they pay at least € 30,000 annually.

        They won’t disappear soon, they need map data and the other option would be paying to google.

        Actually Ms, Meta, Amazon started to support osm because they figured out they can’t really compete against google individually, supporting an open project is cheaper than developing their own maps, or paying millions to google (remember, google maps is free only to individuals, companies have to pay a lot). They don’t really have other option, and the license of osm is very corporate friendly.

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        They used to use some data from osm, public transport in some parts of Poland, and they displayed the required attribution correctly:

        https://xcancel.com/MapAmorePH/status/1453863816110952450

        I have a feeling, it’s just some users who copy from osm to gmaps, and they don’t know it’s illegal. They are already not the smartest people on earth, as they work for free to a for profit company…

        I think Google’s fault is mostly just not enforcing copyright laws. I’ve never seen something on gmaps copied from osm, but I reverted a lot of changesets because they copied from google. So your experiences are not as general as you think