• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    4 hours ago

    It’s not arbitrary code in this case, it’s well defined functions, like list emails, read email, delete email. The agentic portion only decides if it should have those functions invoked.

    Now if they should is up for debate. Personally I would be afraid it would delete an important email that it incorrectly marks as spam, but others may see value.

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        1 hour ago

        Yes, that’s pretty much all an mcp server is, that’s what I’m trying to explain. The ai just chooses what commands out of a list. Each command can be disabled or enabled. Everyone freaking out here like it has sudo access or something when you opt into everything it does

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      It’s not arbitrary code in this case, it’s well defined functions

      No, you’re 100% wrong as the bot can just directly run arbitrary bash commands as well as write arbitrary code to a file and run the file. There’s probably a dozen different ways it can run arbitrary code and many more ways it can be exposed to malicious instructions from the internet.

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          Yeah, great, except the bot can literally just write whatever it wants to the config file ~/.openclaw/exec-approvals.json and give itself approval to execute bash commands.

          There’s probably a hundred trivial ways to get around these permissions and approval requirements. I’ve played around with this bot and also opencode, and have witnessed opencode bypass permissions in real time by just coming up with a different way to do the thing it is wanting to do.

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            This is where tools like bubblewrap (bwrap) come in. For opencode, I heavily limit what it can see and what is has access to. No access to my ssh keys or aws credentials or anything else.