It’s no surprise that federal public universities have received the highest marks; they are universally recognized as the best. But the evaluation of medical programs has also revealed that tuition fees can be inversely proportional to the quality of the education being offered. Medicine schools that scored the lowest (1 or 2 on a scale of 1-5) charge each student between $1,100 and $2,600 a month, according to a detailed analysis by Veja magazine. This is veritable fortune in a country where the minimum wage is $313 a month.
How can you charge so much compared to their minimum wage and still be so bad?
not at all. this is how much private education costs in brazil. most students go in debt to do it, not unlike usians.
there are some exceptions but most trust fund babies are actually in the much superior public university, because they had the better education to pass the hard exams in the first place.
luckily the system has balances to let in a lot of poorer students easier. not nearly enough space for everyone, though.
I have somehow managed to get in a prestigeous a public university in one of the best campi they have, (though unfortanely in a course that I hate and didnt want to get) and this is genuinely as someone that comes from a self subsistance farmer family the first time I have seen macbooks and ipads in my life (they are seen as status symbols here)
there are state mandated quotas of slots designated exclusively to students that have studied in public highschools and for black or mixed students, inclusion programs for low income students that provide up to half a minimum wage, housing and free food
it is common to say that public universities here are for the rich because, for the most part they are, even with all the support poorer students get, they are still a minority, you will see expensive cars roaming arround in the campus being driven by people who clearly got the drivers license yesterday and dont know what fuck theybare doing, and rich kids outright paying to get help cheating in tests
Students that are paying a fortune can expect and demand high grades for little work, they’re paying extra for the “deluxe” degree where all the hard stuff is done for them. It’s really common with for-profit universities.
kinda like carribean ones, and likely wont be eligble for praticing medicine in the states, because they have much more stringent requirements, which tend to ignore “diploma-mill like medical schools”. if you’re a foreign trained"MD that is not from the UK, aus, EU , canada" you will have a extremely hard time to pratice in the states or in any of those countries.
I mean… American minimum wage comes out to $1256 monthly (assuming full-time, and that’s pre-tax). Community college comes in pretty cheap at $450 a month on average, but four year universities come up to $4,800 on average (assuming full-time enrollment for both). The cheapest MD programs I can find are still close to twice the minimum wage, and that’s assuming you get in-state tuition, since out of state is usually 2-3x more.
Try $290 monthly minimum wage. This is Brazil not America in the article. Unless you’re saying It’s better ratio of wage to tuition than America, which is not hard
I’ve studied at a public university in Brazil. Students from private schools were always mocked as being less intelligent and hardworking, starting with the selection process to get in: since everyone wants an education free of cost, the best students are selected for public schools.
But still, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a matter of quality of education, and more of a lack of interest from students combined with a systematic problem of private schools. Hopefully they’re able to require passing this exam to rectify this situation. Currently, that already happens for law schools.
I’ve found in higher education that many programs that act as diploma mills charge a lot because they can. They know the students are just looking for the degree and that the school is probably their only choice.
How can you charge so much compared to their minimum wage and still be so bad?
fun fact the minimum wage is yearly readjusted and based on the cost of common basic items
how is it so bad? I have no fucking clue, we have chronic critical shortage of medics since as far as I can remember
medicine is a very elitized field in brazil
the only exception to that were the few doctors from cuba we had, though seem to have disappeared, unsure why, maybe they just became brazillians
because the fascists didn’t like the idea of cuban medics damaging their precious little ivory tower.
Ah, the American approach
Ftfy
Trust fund babies. Just like here.
not at all. this is how much private education costs in brazil. most students go in debt to do it, not unlike usians.
there are some exceptions but most trust fund babies are actually in the much superior public university, because they had the better education to pass the hard exams in the first place.
luckily the system has balances to let in a lot of poorer students easier. not nearly enough space for everyone, though.
this, 100% correct, I am a brazillian
I have somehow managed to get in a prestigeous a public university in one of the best campi they have, (though unfortanely in a course that I hate and didnt want to get) and this is genuinely as someone that comes from a self subsistance farmer family the first time I have seen macbooks and ipads in my life (they are seen as status symbols here)
there are state mandated quotas of slots designated exclusively to students that have studied in public highschools and for black or mixed students, inclusion programs for low income students that provide up to half a minimum wage, housing and free food
it is common to say that public universities here are for the rich because, for the most part they are, even with all the support poorer students get, they are still a minority, you will see expensive cars roaming arround in the campus being driven by people who clearly got the drivers license yesterday and dont know what fuck theybare doing, and rich kids outright paying to get help cheating in tests
Students that are paying a fortune can expect and demand high grades for little work, they’re paying extra for the “deluxe” degree where all the hard stuff is done for them. It’s really common with for-profit universities.
Exactly. That’s why the commodification of education is a travesty that can’t be overstated…
kinda like carribean ones, and likely wont be eligble for praticing medicine in the states, because they have much more stringent requirements, which tend to ignore “diploma-mill like medical schools”. if you’re a foreign trained"MD that is not from the UK, aus, EU , canada" you will have a extremely hard time to pratice in the states or in any of those countries.
I mean… American minimum wage comes out to $1256 monthly (assuming full-time, and that’s pre-tax). Community college comes in pretty cheap at $450 a month on average, but four year universities come up to $4,800 on average (assuming full-time enrollment for both). The cheapest MD programs I can find are still close to twice the minimum wage, and that’s assuming you get in-state tuition, since out of state is usually 2-3x more.
Try $290 monthly minimum wage. This is Brazil not America in the article. Unless you’re saying It’s better ratio of wage to tuition than America, which is not hard
It’s about the same is what I was saying, yeah
And that doesn’t include books and other necessary materials.
I’ve studied at a public university in Brazil. Students from private schools were always mocked as being less intelligent and hardworking, starting with the selection process to get in: since everyone wants an education free of cost, the best students are selected for public schools.
But still, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a matter of quality of education, and more of a lack of interest from students combined with a systematic problem of private schools. Hopefully they’re able to require passing this exam to rectify this situation. Currently, that already happens for law schools.
I’ve found in higher education that many programs that act as diploma mills charge a lot because they can. They know the students are just looking for the degree and that the school is probably their only choice.