More from the ACLU
If they break in my home, I’m not going down quietly. Taking as many with me as I can. Fight back
Absolutely, good write up. Unfortunately, ICE seems to sometimes not care about any of that.
As do the courts quite often.
There calling it “being detained” for a reason.
You are legally speaking not arrested and also not free to go. Its a legal grey area part of civil and not criminal law.
They don’t need you to be suspect of crime and you can be held indefinitely.
Ah yes, “being detained” in a maximum security concentration camp in another country. Yea no that sounds like it’s entirely legal.
Its also worth remembering that the holocaust was also entirely legal. So was slavery.
Legality and morality are distinct concepts.
Ah yes if we just keep using a new synonym every time, that means we have to start all legal arguments from scratch.
Yeah we have no rights under the Trump administration, so none of that means shit. Especially when the courts are bound and determine to back Trump on it all.
That’s great and all but THE LAW DOESN’T MATTER ANY MORE WAKE UP PEOPLE
Our rights are being stripped away, we have officially transitioned away from a rule of law nation to rule by law. Its too late for peaceful protest and electoralism, now is the time for real action.
Do rights matter right now?
Yes. Certainly there are ICE agents who simply do not care and will gun you down in the street regardless, but this has always been the case. But that’s not the only person you’ll interact with while protesting. By asserting the rights you actually have, you’re more likely to convince the marginal ICE agent, who is still lying to themselves about protecting the constitution, or the police officer who is pretending they’re keeping the peace, or the passer-by who recognizes their rights are contingent on them being held by everyone. And if you end up in front of a judge, which a lot of people are still ending up in front of judges, then protesting in concert with those rights is much more likely to get you off without a booking.
Rights have always been, to some extent, a shared fiction, so the nihilistic impulse to abandon faith in your rights only serves those who intend to infringe them.
People pretending the US is still a country of laws. Cute, but depressing too.
If you want an organized response the below can be helpful.
How to organize a rapid response from a very high level with further detailed resources. https://southerncoalition.org/resources/rapid-response-101/
Good general advice on organizing, also a good resource to find groups near you that are likely aligned. https://www.fiftyfifty.one/organizer-resources
: calmly walks away:
: gets shot in the back of the head with a pepper ball:
/S
YSK local laws may vary. For instance, we cannot use electronic noise amplification devices (megaphones, etc.) in my area due to local law.
Rights don’t matter anymore in the Untied States
Before you even get to say ‘A’, they’ve already pumped ten bullets into your back
You lost all those rights when “moderates” accepted that only American citizens have some human rights. Good luck proving your rights were infringed from a concentration camp in El Salvador.
Yup. I have The Clash song stuck in my head now.
This needs like 500 asterisks; being a criminal defense attorney is a profession that takes many years to do well, and can’t be summed up in a concise list.
Just don’t do sovereign citizen bs.
But don’t forget don’t talk to cops: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eEI mean… ‘They’ have to care about your rights first…
