• Jumbie@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    Way to miss the point. Deportation is not always bad. You can have it in a targeted and humane — and righteous — way without terrorizing US citizens and invading American cities and without funding a masked Gestapo apparatus.

    But you were hating that woman first before reading her statement. Please proceed.

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      Smh people just can’t stand to see a girlboss fascist (who had slaves in the 1980s) succeed

      You’re a clown

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      You are stupid and you are wrong. Just to preempt it because I know it’s coming: this is not an ad hominem. You’re not wrong because you’re stupid, you just happen to be both.

      Who do you think laid the foundations for the ICE Gestapo? Was it perhaps the “Deporter-in-Chief” and his party, who repeatedly approved massive funding increases, expanded detention capacity, normalized local–federal cooperation, and stifled every serious attempt to dismantle the apparatus once it existed?

      Hillary bragging about deportation numbers isn’t some abstract endorsement of “targeted and humane” enforcement. She’s boasting about participation in a system that already relied on mass detention, racial profiling, family separation through removal, and routine due-process abuse. The only difference is that under Obama and Clinton it was wrapped in technocratic language and better PR.

      Your chauvinist ass is treating racially targeted state violence as acceptable so long as it’s quiet, bureaucratic, and doesn’t visibly impact white citizens or comfortable middle-class communities. Obama-era deportations didn’t feel like “Gestapo tactics” to you because they were overwhelmingly inflicted on undocumented and non-white migrants, out of sight and off camera. Raids, cages, deportation flights, and shattered families were already happening. You just didn’t care, because it wasn’t framed as a crisis for white Americans.

      It’s peak liberal chauvinism. Migrant lives are disposable, but the moment enforcement becomes louder or uglier, suddenly it’s a problem.

      Also it is objectively, morally and in every other conceivable way correct to hate the Clinton’s, Obama, the Bushes and Reagan alongside basically every high level American politician. They are a cabal of pedophiles who have immiserated the world on an industrial scale for decades.

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      Not always bad? Wtf is that nazi crap?

      Kicking someone to a place where they don’t want to / cannot live is not bad?

      Even if you kick someone out for “right” reasons (which is already not proven to exist) it is still bad, that is the point, if it was something nice it would not be used as a punishment.

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      The US public are quite happy with the way things are going at present and even if the Democratic leadership getting back in would do anything they will use the very same mechanisms that have been put in place over the many years of little changes here and there.

      If the majority of US citizens where not happy with how things where and what’s happening the government would be in complete shutdown with real strikes from every state … but it is not. This is the real United States.

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      “humane concentration camps” Here, right here, is how the anti-vegan discourse creeps into fascism. This might as well have been a vegetarian talking about how their eggs “don’t require chick killing”.