• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    2 days ago

    Porn blocking? In EU? I heard about it only in UK. Which EU countries block porn?

    ID implementation… yes, all EU countries have ID. Many have digital IDs. What’s with it?

    VPN discussion isn’t really proof of anything. Even Chat Control 2.0 isn’t approved yet, it’s just a project. VPN blocking is not even a proposal. It just someone mentioned in some report. Hardly a reason to claim that EU is becoming a surveillance state.

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      2 days ago

      Do you sit and wait to be impacted by something before you consider forming an opinion on it andk maybe acting?

      IDs and digital IDs are not the same as the discussion surrounding online identification legislation. One is state ID that is pretty common. The other is tech companies gettimg a data harvesting opportunity.

      I didnt make the claim, but there is ample evidence to support it from where I sit.

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        Act if you want to, no one is stopping you. For me it’s just silly that people talk about EU becoming surveillance state without being able to show a single valid example. Like when you said EU is blocking porn and VPN access. I’m still waiting for examples where it was done inside EU. Then everyone claims digital IDs are evil without realizing they have been used without issues in EU for 20 years. It’s like saying that EU will become a military dictatorship because countries have guns.

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          20 hours ago

          The implementation of digital IDs is where there is scope for abuse. Of course they can be done well, I would be delighted for a sovereign zero knowledge system to be implemented. Estonia has had a good system for a long time.

          Chat control weakens encryption which is an issue for VPNs who have e2e encryption.

          Here is the link for adult content requiring third party system confirmation of ID https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification

          Privacy, security and being open sourcr should be priorities for any system legally required.

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            The implementation of digital IDs is where there is scope for abuse.

            It’s like saying that implementing police force is problematic because there is scope for abuse. Do you have any proof that any of EU countries that implemented digital ID over the past decades is using it for surveillance? If not you’re just spreading conspiracy theories.

            Chat control weakens encryption which is an issue for VPNs who have e2e encryption.

            It doesn’t. You don’t know what is in this legislation and you’re spreading conspiracy theories.

            Here is the link for adult content requiring third party system confirmation of ID

            This says it’s privacy preserving and open source. Do you have any proof that this will be used to track/surveil people? Or is is just another conspiracy theory?

            Finally, look at all things like privacy index, press freedom index, freedom of speech index, data on independent courts and so on. Do you see any proof that EU is slipping on those issues? Not right wing countries like Hungary, EU as a whole. Can you find any proof at all that EU is abandoning it’s principles and drifting in the direction of surveillance state? Or is it all just because of some rumors, misinformation and false claims?