“But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human,” Altman said. “It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that, it took the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever, to produce you.”
So in his view, the fair comparison is, “If you ask ChatGPT a question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably, AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis, measured that way.”
creating the “ai” in the first place also required the evolution of those 100 billion people. So by that argument, he was behind before he even started, and it’s impossible to catch up
His argument is his computer is more important than other people, and he’s willing to deprive them of resources to death.
Fuck Sam Altman, fucking cunt
Aren’t humans and biological creatures in general found to be extremely efficient with energy? Given the computing power in our brains the fact it runs on so little is amazing no?
Yes, it’s disingenuous for him to bring up all the time used for humans to evolve as well. If we’re going to go that far, we also ought to include the energy/time used by the engineers who created ChatGPT, and all the energy used by plants/animals in the evolution leading to those engineers. Not to mention all the time/energy/training of all the people who created the training data over the past few centuries.
Frankly, at that point, any human artist is more “efficient” than AI - they’re able to master their field in mere decades.
Doesn’t the human brain do what it does on like the same electricity as a lightbulb?
12 watts maybe. But there is no currents and flashes like internet bullshit images.
What kind of bulb are we talking here?
In Altman’s case it’s a dimbulb.
I really don’t think he meant it that way. Think of it like this - if I want to generate some images, my GPU will run at 100% for few minutes. If I want to play cyberpunk, my GPU will run at 100% for hours.
I think if he meant it that way he would have said that, instead of talking about the energy that humans use and particularly talking about food.
It’s like he asked his chatbot to come up with this argument.
a master class in what-about-ism
Humans should not have to compete for resources hogged by tech.
More like 40, but I get your point.
People fucking hate AI now, surely talking about humanity as if they are a bunch of livestock will turn that sentiment right around.
And humans also built the fucking power plants and pay for the energy they use, asshole.
Altman, Thiel, Musk, et al, need to be headed to the gallows.
The problem isn’t so much their reckless careless behavior, but that they can get so many people to go along and invest.
That’s because capitalism is a mental illness, these people are all sick and need treatment
Maybe we could use altman to fuel the ai? As charcoal?
Not that efficient since most of him is just water.
Well maybe we need to compensate for the inefficiency by including all his CEO and Billionaire buddies as well.
Don’t forget about the hot air
I can outperform ai while being powered by a bag of cinema popcorn, sit your bitch arse down
Hey don’t get angry at me, it is them immigrants fault I had to dehumanize you
Those lazy immigrants, sitting at home doing nothing, taking all our welfare and jobs.
AI actually kind of manages to do that: it takes jobs and then doesn’t do them (or at least doesn’t do them nearly as well as the humans it replaces).
But, a 4% success rate!
by this logic AI has also used the knowledge of 100 billion people and has the same starting energy debt as a person. with the added bonus that it can’t actually create anything new. Even their dumbass arguments can’t stand under their own weight
According to the article, this was his literal next sentence:
And not only that, it took the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever, to produce you.
Where’s Alannis Morissette when you need her?
These people fundamentally do not think about human life in a normal way.
It literally warms my heart to know they are all just as temporary as the rest of us. And how afraid they are of being dust in the wind
